ret pvp spec idea

Paladin
Ok so this is what im thinking the problem is with ret right now. Our ramp up time sucks with SoT and we lack crit.

I've notice SoR does some pretty good damage and has zero ramp up time on it but it has a problem if you spec into SoC. But not specing into it drops your dps

So I've decided to try out this spec:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#sbhzZMbZcrGsbkczfk

Can anyone help me out with this.

p.s I've been playing ret since vanilla and I'm really really determined to stay it and make it work this season any help would be great.


Edit: also I was thinking about not using SoT anymore in arena because with quick switches it becomes harder to cc with the dot ticking and you can't use SoC for the reason as well with SoR because it cleaves
I wish i can reply you with something logical, but ret blows in pvp. Grind holy gear.
lol everyone tells me this but i refuse i hate holy
I dont understand what the problem is with SoC, the cleave is so small it doesn't become much of an issue.

Idk why you're getting Inquiry of Faith even though you wont be using Seal of Truth. Even with the Inquisition bonus that means you're taking more time to actually do damage by dumping your holy power.

And um, selfless healer is like amazing for arena imo.
I'm rolling with this:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#sbZhdMZcrGsbosdbd:RcMkzomVc
inquisition is a worthless ability in pvp and using your holy power on verdict / wog every time is a much better idea

http://www.wowhead.com/talent#sbhMZ0bZcrGsbksdbd is the spec ive been running with and it stomps bgs pretty hard if you arent horrible



in the limited arenas ive done as ret its pretty good too (bloodlust + windfury totem on a ret is insane damage with all the procs you get). but then again thats just limited, so im just going to say for sure that i know its good enough for bgs most likely arena as well

that dosent remove the requirement of "dont be retarded" though

OP says his partner will be another paladin, HoJ cd reduction is much more valuable than extra exorcism dmg with that setup and the reduction of sader strike with haste for 6 points is just not worth it in PvP, you wont be sitting on a target.

OP says his partner will be another paladin, HoJ cd reduction is much more valuable than extra exorcism dmg with that setup and the reduction of sader strike with haste for 6 points is just not worth it in PvP, you wont be sitting on a target.


ok i dont know why you would run with another holy paladin first of all, but even then the .8 seconds i get off cs currently with judgement up and the 20% more exo damage is much more valuable than 6% more healing done and some garbage judgement proc from prot

- OP says he wants to
- .8 seconds is nothing in PvP, you are not sitting on targets and you are using your gcds for lots of other things. You are spending 4 talent points for .8 seconds.
- Why are you even talking about 6% healing and JotJ? Those are fillers, the point is getting the improved HoJ, also, that extra 0.5 seconds(For ONE point) of your Justice effect being up can be a game changer. 20% extra dmg from RNG is not more valuable.
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#sbhbZ0bZfbGcbksdrk:0MRMcRm0V
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#sbhbZ0bZfbGcbksdrk:0MRMcRm0V


lol
Do your worst:
http://www.wowhead.com/talent#scfZMZfrGRzzRdfz
stop trolling!

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