Watcher says No Flying in WoW's Future. VII

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PREVIOUS CAPPED THREADS:
Thread 1: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17597939626

Thread 2: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17605701224

Thread 3: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17605631527

Thread 4: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17605632090

Thread 5: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17605672515

Thread 6: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17604434167

You can find the full interview here: http://www.polygon.com/2015/5/22/8645293/world-of-warcraft-no-flying-tanaan-jungle-warlords-of-draenor-mmo-pc-blizzard

Provided by Gimolos:
I did make a thread on the explicit confirmations from Blue we'd be getting flying with citations:. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17907390898


Original thread text by Fairaday:
Polygon recently did an interview with Ion Hazzikostas. One notable segment was that flying will probably not be in any new zones or expansions:
When Warlords of Draenor first hit, some fans were surprised to discover that even upon reaching the new level cap of 100, they couldn't fly with their air-based mounts in the new zones. Initially Blizzard expected to patch in flying at some point, but now it has changed its mind.

"Having looked at how flying has played out in the old world in the last couple of expansions, we realized that while we were doing it out of this ingrained habit after we introduced flying in The Burning Crusade, it actually detracted from gameplay in a whole lot of ways," Hazzikostas explains. "While there was certainly convenience in being able to completely explore the world in three dimensions, that also came at the expense of gameplay like targeted exploration, like trying to figure out what's in that cave on top of a hill and how do I get up there."

For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return.
-Leonardo da Vinci


Relevant Blue post in the first thread:
05/22/2015 12:25 PMPosted by Crithto
Thanks for creating a thread on this. As you noted, lead designer Ion Hazzikostas mentioned in a recent interview with Polygon that we’ve decided not to allow the use of flying mounts on Draenor. There’s been a lot of debate about the pros and cons of flying over the course of this expansion—not just in the community, but in the hallways, offices, and break rooms at Blizzard—and we know it’s something everyone feels passionately about.

During Patch 6.2’s development, we continued to discuss how flight would fundamentally change the way players experience all of Draenor’s ground-based content, and carefully weighed that against the benefits flying would bring to the game. Ultimately, after much deliberation, we came to the conclusion that the world of Draenor would simply no longer provide the experience we envisioned it if we were to reintroduce flight in this expansion.

We appreciate everyone who has taken the time to weigh in on this topic. You’ve provided some great insight and feedback, and we ask that you please be respectful of one another as you continue to discuss your thoughts and experiences.

You can read the original quote in [url="http://www.polygon.com/2015/5/22/8645293/world-of-warcraft-no-flying-tanaan-jungle-warlords-of-draenor-mmo-pc-blizzard"]Ion’s interview with Polygon here[/url].


Another Blue Statement in thread IV: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17605632090?page=17#331
Posted by Bashiok:
Thanks everyone for your continued feedback and discussion on the topic. The development team is actively reading it and discussing it, and will certainly continue to in the days ahead. We’re all as passionate about working on WoW as we are playing it, and we're dedicated to making it a great experience. As always, we'll let you know if we have any further information to share.


Previous Blizzard statements on flying 1 year prior to the release of WoD that should be of interest:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10571977123?page=28#556
That entire thread has 3 blue posts in it in total.

Twitter Hashtags currently in use by players:

#Bringbackflying
#NoFlyNoSub
And one involving the employment status of a certain person who shall not be named here.
I'll add others as they cross my feed, I'm sure there are more.

A youtube vid that I feel is currently under-appreciated. "WoW has had it's Star Wars Galaxies Moment"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtM4bq_mUwE

Remember to keep it civil and to stay on topic. [/b][/quote]

*****

Here are several examples (screenshots) of why flight NEEDS to be re-implemented:

http://imgur.com/a/NbWEQ#0
**BestViewed @ Full Resolution**

This album consists of several hours spent traversing the terrains of Nagrand, Frostfire Ridge, Shadowmoon Valley, and Shattrath. I even included a shot from inside the Throne of the Four Winds raid, but look at it - if you were on foot on the boss platforms, you couldn't see 1/10th the area, in all of its glory - its amazing!!

Seeing the scale of the zones from the air...my god the areas are HUGE!! I get the sense of a large open world from the air, not being restricted to the ground.

And yes, there was nothing else to do BUT climb this mountain and glide for the short period to enjoy an amazing view.

As soon as I hit ground (or water) I'll be hearthing back to my Garrison.

You want us to enjoy this vast world you've created? THIS is the best way to enjoy it - Flying.

The view from up here is amazing.

Please reconsider and grant us flying back - I really want to see more of the world.

Also...
Why sell and advertise a new flying mount on the store, when it can't be properly used?

https://us.battle.net/shop/en/product/world-of-warcraft-mount-mystic-runesaber
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19083826/new-mystic-runesaber-mount-now-available-5-13-2015

It's a major slap in the face to EVERYONE that loves to collect mounts.

Screen shot it too just in case they try to revamp/remove it:
http://i.imgur.com/n9ABUjm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pJViUD1.jpg

And to top it off...

Here is one hell of a link, with the key content copied as well: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/10571977123?page=1#6

[b]We intend to disallow flying while leveling from 90 to 100, and have flying become available again in the first major patch for Warlords of Draenor.
No flying while leveling has been the case during Burning Crusade, Wrath of the Lich King, and Mists of Pandaria. We allowed flying during Cataclysm because as those zones were mixed-in with the 1-60 world it just would have been really jarring to dismount you as you fly into Hyjal, etc. but we would have disallowed it for Catalcysm zones as well if there was a reasonable solution there.

And the screen shot of that post:

http://i.imgur.com/HgE4ZLv.png

So Blizz - give us what you intended. Give us our wings back please. We're ready to explore and await to do so.

#LetUsFly - #WhatAreWeWithoutTheSkies - #IonPlzResign - @YouFaceVeraxys
I support this message.
Scratch that. The OP is supposed to be at least quasi neutral. You should edit out anything overtly biased.
Front page hype.

I wonder how many capped threads we'll get before the interview. 2, maybe 3 more?
Flying never hurt the game at max level.
06/02/2015 09:56 AMPosted by Ony
Front page hype.

I wonder how many capped threads we'll get before the interview. 2, maybe 3 more?

Dunno, but I just realized this posting duplicated itself in the forums >.<
Reported for spamming.
Stop this madness
Dunno, but I just realized this posting duplicated itself in the forums >.<


OP you might want to report one to get it deleted. This will make for a diffusion of posts and effect.
Upvoted and requested sticky.
Dunno, but I just realized this posting duplicated itself in the forums >.<


OP you might want to report one to get it deleted. This will make for a diffusion of posts and effect.

Talking to a GM/CM about that now.
06/02/2015 09:58 AMPosted by Gijonas
Reported for spamming.
Stop this madness


and you have been reported for trolling, who do you think is extending these threads BLIZZARD is!.
06/02/2015 09:56 AMPosted by Ony
Front page hype.

I wonder how many capped threads we'll get before the interview. 2, maybe 3 more?

Dunno, but I just realized this posting duplicated itself in the forums >.<


Can you get the duplicate deleted? (And thank you, thank you, for starting Part VII!)

What are we without the sky?
...

OP you might want to report one to get it deleted. This will make for a diffusion of posts and effect.

Talking to a GM/CM about that now.


Good deal.
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Dunno, but I just realized this posting duplicated itself in the forums >.<


Can you get the duplicate deleted? (And thank you, thank you, for starting Part VII!)

What are we without the sky?

Working on it now!
To make sure that we understand the underpinnings of what is going on:

http://www.memorableplaces.com/mudwimping.html

To understand our frustrations and our incomprehension at this seemingly insane choice by the development team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt30BhoMBPA

AZCHATS take on it (warning 'fruity language):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqJdkV6iiFA

All of these people are wrong Blizzard?
...

Can you get the duplicate deleted? (And thank you, thank you, for starting Part VII!)

What are we without the sky?

Working on it now!


Just remove the content in your OP in the other thread and link this one, and tell people to stop posting in it.
Vera you might want to edit your re-post of this to link just to this one. At least until a mod comes along and tidies up the other one.
Exercise in futility, Chapter 7: Fuzzykoala stands firm on NoFlight
Flight, flight, flight!
06/02/2015 10:02 AMPosted by Gulkosh
Vera you might want to edit your re-post of this to link just to this one. At least until a mod comes along and tidies up the other one.

Yeah got them working on it now.

BRING BACK FLIGHT!

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