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This is the stuff that was compressed in OP for quick reference

Legion Beta General Discussion:

[FEEDBACK] Problems with Warlock Animations:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20745045224

General Discussion:

Destruction Has Been ROBBED of Class Fantasy:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20747964966

Destruction Warlocks in Legion:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/19741204678

Looking for insight on Warlock design:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748455595

Mop Destro vs WoD/Legion:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748655204

Short Analysis of Warlocks from Cata to now:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748686611

The current state of Warlocks:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748655429

The Destruction of Xelnath's Legacy:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748505218

Where are these comments on hitfixes?:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748556298

Warlock Sub-forum:
~Warlock Dev Hotfix Suggestions Thread~:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748936631

A long rational post about Affliction:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749285422

An In-Depth Look at Affliction:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749026487

A small change to haunt?:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748497041

A list of what we have lost in the last years:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749044719

A Treatise of Destruction:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748864899

Calling All Warlock Voices:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748575457

Calling All Warlock Voices 2:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748596134

Calling All Warlock Voices 3:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748795049

Can we all agree? Drain Life.:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748904864

Can we get verdant spheres back?:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748586866?page=1

Cancelling My Subscription:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748904812

Change to affliciton:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748764848

Class Fantasy, and why we should Tame Demon:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749038322

Class fantasy shouldn't be managing mana:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748744774

Demo: skipping dreadstalkers:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748804878

Demoniclilys master suggestions thread!:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748626311

Demonology changes hurt class fantasy.:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20747674874

Demon Variety and Customization:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749107177

Destro's Demise: The Dying Ember:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748844867#post-1

going oom as demonology:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748694826

Hotfix Thread:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749126546

How I thought Demononlogy was gonna work:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748686163

I spoke Demonic before it was cool:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748734807

My one problem with Soul effigy:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748764894

Not Happy With Demo ATM - A Rant:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20747945470

Observations from an 838 AFF warlock:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749175673

On current and future Warlock design:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748976213

To Ion: From Affliction Warlock:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749086765

Warlock boring??:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748834815

Warlock Changes. A Constructive thread.:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749106237

Warlock Feedback! Attention Please:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748784884

Warlock Nerf List:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748595578

What would you change to fix your fav spec?:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748864834

Warlock Sub-forum - EU

Calling All Warlock Voices - EU:
http://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17613162166

We as a community will be heard:
http://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17613132935

Legion PvP Feedback

Legion PvP, from Beta to Live: A Path Forward.:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20748456380

Regarding the disparity between melee and casters:
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20745196336
11/21/2017 08:04 PMPosted by Baalsamael
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759387936

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759606343


Added.
I just have to say. I have been playing the Warlock for ten years. It used to all make sense. Give a little get a little. And there was a nice history and ambience about it. Now it is just run for hills because someone is gonna come stun you or shadow stun you or silence you or still you or whatever and you just sit there why they kill you. Lots of fun. We need to be able to fight back. That is the fun of the game. We need some new spells that allow us to either fight back or cover us up so we don't die. It really is ridiculous.
11/24/2017 01:36 PMPosted by Ionawide
I just have to say. I have been playing the Warlock for ten years. It used to all make sense. Give a little get a little. And there was a nice history and ambience about it. Now it is just run for hills because someone is gonna come stun you or shadow stun you or silence you or still you or whatever and you just sit there why they kill you. Lots of fun. We need to be able to fight back. That is the fun of the game. We need some new spells that allow us to either fight back or cover us up so we don't die. It really is ridiculous.


Plate tank spec?
Just wondering if anyone here can help me I teleported to Dalaran in the middle of my artifact quest and don't know how to get back there to finish it??????
Thank God drain boredom is gone
Hey fellow Locks!
I wanted to drop in and say I love that the community is standing up and trying to push for a solution. I wanted to chime in with my .02$ from a PvP perspective.

The first biggest glaring issue is about our survivability as of now in BfA; or the lack of. All specs play in a glass cannon/ turret style (seemingly without the cannon.) Now I do understand the position of destro being that way; however, I don't agree that demo or affi should ever be. I also have always been on the side that since locks do take a ramp up period for damage to take effect, then they should have a bit more survivability than most clothies to ensure their dmg even creates pressure. As is we are free HKs to almost all classes in bfa.

Now to start on affi. The play style feels too dependent on free casting to get out UAs and the removal of Nightfall giving instant corruptions creates a downfall in the play. The ability to keep dots up for pressure while being trained to the dirt is honestly going to make the class irrelevant for competitive pvp. Too much focus goes into peeling than actually even being able to do any dmg or set ups of cc. Improvements imo: give affi either some sort of demonic armor to spec into with the mini bubble, or a bit more of self healing from dots, or SS generation. 2nd point is to create a way to get out dots in a more effective manor even if it is at the cost of more soul shards. Like an instant UA for 2 shards rather than hard cast for 1. Bring back nightfall for the ability to reapply corruption in a global. Literally cannot keep corruption and agony's uptime with out capping on SS.
Next is my biggest wish and request from blizzard. PLEASE give demo a solid chance. Demo runs with the same complaints as affi. It is squishy, it is a turret, and the dmg is even more so under-tuned. Demo needs either a form of soul link. In addition, the dmg needs to be inline with other casters, and there needs to be more cleave or a variation in the playstyle to create cleave for RBGs and 3s improvement. Not to mention the class can't function without standing in one place and free casting. This generally doesn't ever work in pvp, and never has.

I am hoping blizz is actually reading and taking notes. Here is to demo actually making the come back they promised us. Happy hunting all!
Your local semi-competitive pvp'er!
Edit: Typos
09/06/2018 08:45 AMPosted by Lockholiday
Hey fellow Locks!
I wanted to drop in and say I love that the community is standing up and trying to push for a solution. I wanted to chime in with my .02$ from a PvP perspective.

The first biggest glaring issue is about our survivability as of now in BfA; or the lack of. All specs play in a glass cannon/ turret style (seemingly without the cannon.) Now I do understand the position of destro being that way; however, I don't agree that demo or affi should ever be. I also have always been on the side that since locks do take a ramp up period for damage to take effect, then they should have a bit more survivability than most clothies to ensure their dmg even creates pressure. As is we are free HKs to almost all classes in bfa.

Now to start on affi. The play style feels too dependent on free casting to get out UAs and the removal of Nightfall giving instant corruptions creates a downfall in the play. The ability to keep dots up for pressure while being trained to the dirt is honestly going to make the class irrelevant for competitive pvp. Too much focus goes into peeling than actually even being able to do any dmg or set ups of cc. Improvements imo: give affi either some sort of demonic armor to spec into with the mini bubble, or a bit more of self healing from dots, or SS generation. 2nd point is to create a way to get out dots in a more effective manor even if it is at the cost of more soul shards. Like an instant UA for 2 shards rather than hard cast for 1. Bring back nightfall for the ability to reapply corruption in a global. Literally cannot keep corruption and agony's uptime with out capping on SS.
Next is my biggest wish and request from blizzard. PLEASE give demo a solid chance. Demo runs with the same complaints as affi. It is squishy, it is a turret, and the dmg is even more so under-tuned. Demo needs either a form of soul link. In addition, the dmg needs to be inline with other casters, and there needs to be more cleave or a variation in the playstyle to create cleave for RBGs and 3s improvement. Not to mention the class can't function without standing in one place and free casting. This generally doesn't ever work in pvp, and never has.

I am hoping blizz is actually reading and taking notes. Here is to demo actually making the come back they promised us. Happy hunting all!
Your local semi-competitive pvp'er!
Edit: Typos


Thanks for the post.

Believe it or not, I started this thread around the beginning of Legion. Unfortunately the mountain of feedback I collated from more knowledgeable locks than myself seemed to be largely ignored (not by the CM though, they were a sport and pinned the topic) or at least not acted upon in any meaningful way.

I was tempted to do another for BfA but once bitten twice shy as they say.
Oh bummer,
If it wasn't heard then, I don't believe we will be heard now. Here is to another xpac of the same.
Thank you for the reply!
Fix F***KING WARLOCKS ALREADY IN PVP HOYL !@#$!
it’s been a while now that Demonbolt sometimes gives you only 1 Soul Shard. Please fix this!
Demo locks in pvp aren't working out to well, yes i know blizzards idea was to make each class have a viable pvp spec/build... and affliction is clearly warlocks spac for pvp, though with that saidim sure blizz wanted us to be able to pvp on every class and spec in a viable sense, Demo isn't exactly ideal... i love demo and it's my main spec.

My ideas i mentioned about Demo are Here:
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20769577957#1

A short summery is... We really need our mobility back for pvp demonic teleport is currently not really... useful with it's very limited range than it use to have... it really does feel like the range was reduced, mortal coil is such a powerful talent in the same talent tier and it's hard to pick the nerfed demonic teleport over a second fear.

The other thing is the few talents in Demo that needa be looked at, like Doom, From the Shadows, Nether portal and Demonic consumption. Doom has been seriously nerfed into the ground than it use to be since it's current form is for one.. a talent and two damage pales compared to it's previous self in older expansions.
I'm returning to lock after many years away on my priest, and just have to say that I am in complete agreement that demonology must be addressed.

It feels just awful.

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