7.1 PVP Gear Reward Change

Battlegrounds
With Patch 7.1: Return to Karazhan arriving on October 25, we wanted to share some updates on PvP rewards from Battlegrounds, Skirmishes, Arenas, and Rated Battlegrounds. Like many of the players we’ve heard from over the last few weeks, we’ve identified areas where PvP rewards could be more satisfying. Along the way, we made a few changes through hotfixes, but we can do much more in a full content patch.

Artifact Power
Soon after players began exploring the Broken Isles, we recognized the incredible impact that Artifact Power has as a reward mechanism. While PvP already rewards Artifact Power, it isn't clear how much Artifact Power you might get from doing a particular PvP activity, which might have made some players reluctant to participate. To address that, Artifact Power rewards have been increased for PvP in Patch 7.1, and the user interface will now show you exactly how much you'll receive for a victory.

First Victory of the Day Bonus
The Honor reward for your first Random Battleground victory of the day has always been twice that of subsequent victories. In Patch 7.1, we've extended that bonus to all of the other brackets in PvP: Skirmishes, 2v2 Arenas, 3v3 Arenas, and Rated Battlegrounds. Furthermore, in addition to bonus Honor, your first victory of the day will also reward a large Artifact Power bonus. This means big rewards for players who participate in a variety of PvP formats each day.

Here are examples of Honor and Artifact Power rewards for each bracket, including first-of-the-day bonus rewards:

Activity Honor Artifact Power Artifact Power (at Artifact Knowledge 10)
Skirmish Win (First of the Day) 160 100 950
Skirmish Win 80 25 238
Random BG Win (First of the Day) 300 400 3800
Random BG Win 150 200 1900
2v2 Win (First of the Day) 200 120 1150
2v2 Win 100 40 380
3v3 Win (First of the Day) 200 180 1700
3v3 Wins 100 60 570
Rated BG Win (First of the Day) 600 800 7600
Rated BG Win 300 400 3800

Gear from PvP
While the impact of gear in Battlegrounds and Arenas in Legion is different from past expansions, we still believe it’s important for endgame activities to reward items. In Patch 7.1, every Battleground or Rated Battleground victory will reward a piece of gear. Losses will also have a chance to reward gear based on the final score of the match, and Skirmish and Arena victories will have an increased chance to drop gear. This gear will has a chance to roll up with the possible bonuses you’re used to, including Warforged, Titanforged, socketed, and with tertiary stats.

Our initial approach for Legion has been to have the item level of gear rewards from PvP increase with your Honor Level. However, the way this works hasn’t been obvious to players, and it resulted in the unfortunate circumstance where some players tried out PvP only after gearing up elsewhere—and were disappointed by the PvP rewards. In Patch 7.1, we've transitioned PvP gear rewards to more closely mirror the type of item level progression you see from World Quests. This means PvP should feel as rewarding as other parts of the game that offer high replay value.

Weekly Bonus Gear from Rated PvP
Previously, your first victory in each rated bracket of PvP (2v2, 3v3, Rated Battlegrounds) rewarded a piece of gear based on your current PvP rating. This wasn’t ideal. Often, players didn’t know what item level reward gear would offer before participating. Winning a single game represents a fairly insignificant amount of effort for a piece of high item level gear, especially considering this gear has the potential to rival the best items from raids or Mythic Keystone dungeons. The decision to use your current PvP rating also discouraged players from doing anything that might result in their rating going down. For example, if you've just had an amazing run in Arenas, you may decide to stop trying to improve your rating, or you might be reluctant to put your rating on the line with a less-skilled friend who just logged in.

In Patch 7.1, each bracket of rated PvP (2v2, 3v3, Rated Battlegrounds) has a weekly quest that rewards items based on your best rating from the previous week. The quests for Arena brackets will require 10 wins, and the quests for the Rated Battleground bracket require four wins. Below a rating of 2000, these quests will always reward a piece of gear with the current season's Gladiator appearance. Above 2000 rating, these quests will always reward a piece of gear with the current season's Elite appearance. Again, you’ll always see the item level of the gear you’ll receive in the tooltip of the weekly quest.

Here is an example listing of the rating-to-item level breakdown for Season 1:

Last Week's Rating Base Item Level Appearance
0 - 1399 840 Gladiator
1400 - 1599 850 Gladiator
1600 - 1799 860 Gladiator
1800 - 1999 865 Gladiator
2000 - 2199 870 Elite
2200 - 2399 875 Elite
2400+ 880 Elite
"Winning a single game represents a fairly insignificant amount of effort for a piece of high item level gear, especially considering this gear has the potential to rival the best items from raids or Mythic Keystone dungeons."

Considering all I get from this is junk gear lower ilvl than what I got from WQ's, and not even something I can use for xmog 90% of the time... GOOD.

"In Patch 7.1, each bracket of rated PvP (2v2, 3v3, Rated Battlegrounds) has a weekly quest that rewards items based on your best rating from the previous week. The quests for Arena brackets will require 10 wins, and the quests for the Rated Battleground bracket require four wins. "

Oh god that's awful. Now I need to put in more effort to get my weekly vendor trash? Wtf? If I have to win x amount of wins a week then I better damn well just get the ability to buy WHAT I WANT from a vendor. God how could they manage to make a worse system than what we have now....
10/22/2016 10:10 AMPosted by Crocelle
God how could they manage to make a worse system than what we have now....


Because they are stupid?
Hey so this might be a stupid question, but how do you actually start or hand in the weekly pvp qeust? I did my 10 wins in pvp this week and then today I log in and it all reset and I didn't get my gear. So was I supposed to start a qeust? I thought it was automatic.
11/01/2016 11:52 AMPosted by Falcons
Hey so this might be a stupid question, but how do you actually start or hand in the weekly pvp qeust? I did my 10 wins in pvp this week and then today I log in and it all reset and I didn't get my gear. So was I supposed to start a qeust? I thought it was automatic.

I would like to know this as well, im a noob
10/21/2016 05:14 PMPosted by Pétasse
In Patch 7.1, every Battleground or Rated Battleground victory will reward a piece of gear. Losses will also have a chance to reward gear based on the final score of the match, and Skirmish and Arena victories will have an increased chance to drop gear.
This is BS, won a bg match on 2 different toons and got nada, big FAT zero for rewards. not even the usual swiftness potion
So, can i get top end gear by doing BG's or am i still forced into doing raids if i want to actually participate in World PvP?
11/01/2016 11:01 PMPosted by Elwood
So, can i get top end gear by doing BG's or am i still forced into doing raids if i want to actually participate in World PvP?


If you want to participate and be on level with high end raiders in World PVP then I'd suggest you also do PVE.

Unless you plan on pushing 2200+ in rated PVP you will not be getting the same ILVL gear.
11/01/2016 11:05 PMPosted by Pingazlol
11/01/2016 11:01 PMPosted by Elwood
So, can i get top end gear by doing BG's or am i still forced into doing raids if i want to actually participate in World PvP?


If you want to participate and be on level with high end raiders in World PVP then I'd suggest you also do PVE.

Unless you plan on pushing 2200+ in rated PVP you will not be getting the same ILVL gear.


What a horrible system
Just bring back tokens; we'll figure out our own gear and such.
11/01/2016 11:05 PMPosted by Pingazlol
11/01/2016 11:01 PMPosted by Elwood
So, can i get top end gear by doing BG's or am i still forced into doing raids if i want to actually participate in World PvP?


If you want to participate and be on level with high end raiders in World PVP then I'd suggest you also do PVE.

Unless you plan on pushing 2200+ in rated PVP you will not be getting the same ILVL gear.

Even though your advice is correct and well-meant, I still say f**k that s**t. I'm not doing hours on end of PVE content to have a fair chance in WPVP. It just ain't happening.
11/02/2016 11:19 AMPosted by Elrynn
11/01/2016 11:05 PMPosted by Pingazlol
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If you want to participate and be on level with high end raiders in World PVP then I'd suggest you also do PVE.

Unless you plan on pushing 2200+ in rated PVP you will not be getting the same ILVL gear.

Even though your advice is correct and well-meant, I still say f**k that s**t. I'm not doing hours on end of PVE content to have a fair chance in WPVP. It just ain't happening.
Then get some rating.
11/02/2016 11:22 AMPosted by Jugaa
Then get some rating.

In the last two expansions, there was a path to obtaining high-end PVP gear through persistence and perseverance - i.e. grinding regular battlegrounds. It was slow. It was arduous. But it was reliable. I fail to see why this was a bad thing.
I think the statement from Blizzard posted by the OP shows that Blizzard is moving to correct what it - and arguably a large portion of the PVP player base - sees as shortcomings in the current system, but IMHO it does not go far enough. I simply do not see why the previous system was so bad that it had to be completely replaced.
By the way, I just won the first regular BG I did today. I though we were supposed to get a piece of gear for that. I didn't get anything at all. Working as intended or bugged?
There is still plenty of bug like this yes ...

Honestly Legion has been really good pve wise but for pvp ... the absolute worst -_-
11/02/2016 11:22 AMPosted by Jugaa
11/02/2016 11:19 AMPosted by Elrynn
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Even though your advice is correct and well-meant, I still say f**k that s**t. I'm not doing hours on end of PVE content to have a fair chance in WPVP. It just ain't happening.
Then get some rating.


Don't even need rating.

You just need to beg the RNG gods to bless you. I got a 870 PvP ring the other day with a 0 rated rating.
Did random BG today 1st win 860 legs. Working as blizz intended i guess?
11/02/2016 09:34 PMPosted by Kilawrath
11/02/2016 11:22 AMPosted by Jugaa
...Then get some rating.


Don't even need rating.

You just need to beg the RNG gods to bless you. I got a 870 PvP ring the other day with a 0 rated rating.


I thought that's what I was reading from the OP..

I'm confused, because I'm tired and maybe not processing this correctly, but I thought I was reading that you can still have a chance of winning high rated gear through RNG. I'm thinking it's just if you're a higher rating you have a better chance of getting it.

I thought they mentioned that if you have a high rating you get the elite appearance kind if you get a piece of gear.
So basically ... Ill never get any decent gear because I like to run Random BG's all day... Thanks Blizz. Go frack yourself.

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