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had over 12million subs.so i ask why dont you make a xpac like wotlk.no other xpac has come close to 12 million.wotlk you could gem all gear you could enchant most gear.hell even professions that you chosed gave you a enchant like tailor would give a cloak spell power enchant.the reason they say they did away with talent trees was because they would bake the crit increase and attack power and so into the toon but look at artifact weapon theres the crit and damage increases they said they would bake into the toon was why they said they did away with talent trees
wotlk.openwow.com/talent
The MMO demographic is much different today. Crap that flew in Wrath would be too much for people these days.
Wrath growth was flat / declining by the end, those subs were mostly collected from Vanilla and BC. Your point is?
What you need is less a time machine, and more an amnesia potion.

Your nostalgia is leading you astray.
my point is your wrong do i need to get the chart for you
http://wotlk.openwow.com/talent#sxA0gM0sVu0tgdZVcbxbh

http://wotlk.openwow.com/talent#sxA0gM0sVu0tgdxGzubh

There's the two holy paladin trees. Two choices. Not 71. Not even 7. Two.

If you can come up with a better one, go back to 2008 and let me know what to use instead.
Yeah, Wrath only did that well because BC was amazing and showed real progress. Wrath continued that but like many, I perceived Cata as taking steps in the wrong direction. Too much class homogenization went on near the end of Wrath.

Some of those homogenization issues were improved but for the most part it has stuck around. What has improved over the expansions are many QoL changes that people were asking for since Vanilla.
11/26/2016 08:33 PMPosted by Ehcks
http://wotlk.openwow.com/talent#sxA0gM0sVu0tgdZVcbxbh

http://wotlk.openwow.com/talent#sxA0gM0sVu0tgdxGzubh

There's the two holy paladin trees. Two choices. Not 71. Not even 7. Two.

If you can come up with a better one, go back to 2008 and let me know what to use instead.


But, but mah illusion of choice...
11/26/2016 08:33 PMPosted by Ehcks
http://wotlk.openwow.com/talent#sxA0gM0sVu0tgdZVcbxbh

http://wotlk.openwow.com/talent#sxA0gM0sVu0tgdxGzubh

There's the two holy paladin trees. Two choices. Not 71. Not even 7. Two.

If you can come up with a better one, go back to 2008 and let me know what to use instead.


When I was Demo threw cata and wotlk there was a single talent tree set up we had to take.

One, literally one specific set of talents. I like the options far better now, despite being in a rough spot with locks talents, it's still far better choices then previous incarnations.

What I hope for, personally, is the old school tree set up, HOWEVER, it to consist only of talents with meaningful use, and gameplay chamgers, such as the ones now.

Of course, that would be a balancing nightmare.

Lets see if this link works.

http://freecode.hu/wowtal/eng/?.18-332122230031021221133202.14-!-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
On another topic this Demonvader's post history makes for funny reading. Half his posts are "bump" and the other half are unintelligent insults at the Blizz team.

11/26/2016 08:25 PMPosted by Demonvader
my point is your wrong do i need to get the chart for you


http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_original/1241945255815773287.png

ok please, point to where the massive sub gains are in WOTLK, please do. /s
Wrath was high because people loved the story. I don't think game play really had much to do with it in the grand scheme of things.

The expansions have dropped off since mostly I think due to bad writing and lack of content more than anything.

Legion is just another failed example. They presented a guise of content, without really having to add much. The tiered difficulties gives the illusion you have new things to do when you're still just doing the exact same dungeons, for the exact same loot with higher ilvls.

World quests are all stuff we already did a ton of times. Hell questing in general is the same 3-4 themes repeated hundreds and thousands of times. Kill X. Collect X. Gather X. Misc X. Its all very flat. People burn out over time. I think the end of Wrath was the beginning of the end for that model and we have just been along for the ride for a very long and slow demise.
WITH ALL THE VEHICLE COMBAT AND ONE BOSS RAIDS (NOT COUNTING MINI BOSSES AS REAL BOSSES)? COOL STUFF FOR SURE.

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