Season 3 Elite Available at End of Season 4

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https://twitter.com/warcraftdevs/status/870024202258006016

I'm pretty baffled by the decision. I don't understand time gating the elite appearance when before legion, set appearances were available as soon as you achieved a certain rating. I understand they changed it due to not wanting people sitting 2k to finish out the set, but that's why they implemented the elite achievements. It's extremely flawed to me how a season 3 reward isn't even going to be available until the end of season 4. I mean, you can't even be guaranteed to finish out the set during season anyways because RNG gearing. I've heard they made the decision because they want to increase participation in season 4 by making you keep grinding for the appearance, but it just demotivates me to even queue next season because I know I can get it next season end anyways with 0 effort.

TL;DR: I don't understand the desicion to have the current season appearances unlocked at the end of the next season.

I just think it's an incredibly poor decision on Blizzards part, and I wanted to see what the forums input on this was.

EDIT: Recieved a response from the BlizzardDevs:

https://twitter.com/warcraftdevs/status/870729017216741376

"The ensembles become available when those appearances can no longer be obtained in rated PvP.

Legion Seasons 3&4 share an armor appearance."

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TO THE DEVS:

These are the things we'd like to see changed in regards to the elite appearance system (keep in mind please, both of these changes must happen, it's not one or the other):

- Elite ensemble available at the end of every season, regardless of appearance: I feel this is a suitable compromise from what I've gathered on the blue post on this thread. This would guarantee the players who earned their sets during the season the entire appearance if they could not get all of the set pieces to drop through the RNG system currently in place.
- Elite appearances are guaranteed to drop after 2000 current rating: If we are expected to finish out an elite set during season, and wait for ensembles to release at the end of a season, having a normal piece drop at 2150 does not sound logical. This way, you retain the system currently in place, while making it much easier for players to complete their appearances through guaranteed elite drops. I feel this would also be beneficial to the obliteration system, as the more elite drops you have, the more "elite" Echoes you will have for purchase.
Its likely because they dont change pvp gear appearance every season anymore so they figure we have plenty of time to aquire it and if somehow we dont by 2 seasons then we can buy it, we should just get new set looks every season even if they are all modified previous sets like this current one
You guys know each other or are your names just a coincidence
05/31/2017 06:43 PMPosted by Twoshotz
Its likely because they dont change pvp gear appearance every season anymore so they figure we have plenty of time to aquire it and if somehow we dont by 2 seasons then we can buy it, we should just get new set looks every season even if they are all modified previous sets like this current one


Yeah I definitely get that, but...why not just make the seasons gear available at the end of each season? I know that's how it worked for s1/s2 but the elite achievements of vendors didn't exist until end of s2. I mean why not have the ilvl gear continue to drop from arenas, while you can purchase the appearance once you hit 2000, which has pretty much been the case for the last couple of expansions. For a lot of people I know hitting that first 2000 and getting the set is a huge motivator, now it's like...you've got to wait months to be guaranteed the set you earned the last season. Doesn't seem fair/fun/reasonable.
05/31/2017 06:46 PMPosted by Yatogami
You guys know each other or are your names just a coincidence


why was this mans question ignored
Literally the only reason I've been queueing this season was for the transmog. Almost there and now I have no desire to keep going. Thanks blizord
05/31/2017 07:00 PMPosted by Shots
Yeah I definitely get that, but...why not just make the seasons gear available at the end of each season? I know that's how it worked for s1/s2 but the elite achievements of vendors didn't exist until end of s2.


probably to keep the elite sets mildly nice for people who farm them for the duration of the season
and to keep the ladder active so you dont just sit i suppose
That sucks :/.
They split the seasons to make it look like there's more PvP content. All the gear is exactly the same. It would be like only releasing half a raid at a time then proclaiming they've doubled the amount of raids this expac.

Well to make a more fair analogy there would also be a rep grind for the raid, and it would be reset upon the release of the second half.

That's essentially the "gift" of more seasons. How nice of them. The only people this helps is the top few percent of players that get glad and r1. And even then like 90% of them are the same ppl every season.
Everything they do now a days is silly lol nothing surprised me anymore i just go along with the nonsense and hope for the best. hahaha no we dont know each other i didnt even notice xD thats neat
One of the comments on that post said something like "pve'ers don't have to earn something and wait for the next patch to get it".

What do you guys think about that?

I think PvP is largely responsible for keeping this game alive, although I'm sure the numbers of people playing PvE are waaaay higher than PvP. But most of the popular channels on Twitch are people doing arena, the others are pretty much girls farming Mythic+. I don't ever see PvE events like the arena tournaments.

Although I feel like I could go on and on, you all have probably heard it a billion times.
05/31/2017 06:46 PMPosted by Yatogami
You guys know each other or are your names just a coincidence


Just a coincidence!

05/31/2017 07:02 PMPosted by Nostalgic
05/31/2017 07:00 PMPosted by Shots
Yeah I definitely get that, but...why not just make the seasons gear available at the end of each season? I know that's how it worked for s1/s2 but the elite achievements of vendors didn't exist until end of s2.


probably to keep the elite sets mildly nice for people who farm them for the duration of the season
and to keep the ladder active so you dont just sit i suppose


But I can get the set anyways at the end of the next season even if I don't do anything for s4. It's just strange to me why they won't just have the appearances being released at the end of the respective season, instead of forcing those who earned it early to wait months. But then again I don't understand a lot on what Blizzard is doing for pvp so I'm enjoying legion I guess.
Damn the Russians! This would have never happened if not for them.
05/31/2017 07:37 PMPosted by Cruzade
I think PvP is largely responsible for keeping this game alive


if this were true they'd care a whole lot more about it

truth is barely anyone does arena these days, every season is deader than the last
Yeah this is pretty dumb. What are the pros of this decision? After giving us a 10 week season you remove a huge incentive to play. After the 2 week warning I started grinding arenas just for the elite set, but now what is the payoff?

Why not just combine the two seasons instead of resetting rating? Especially if it would be a 20 week season.
I think their excuse is that they want the elite set to be weekly rewards still since it has stats and also they added echos of dominance so if you get multi same items you can blow them up and buy them but I think originally blizz forgot to add them like they forgot pvp rewards like tabard and enchant and fun
Blizz, please don't make us wait. That's just stupid.
Wow I tried so hard to get to 2k expecting to use the transmog set when season 3 ends and cannot believe reading this right now.

Any chance that Blizz can change this decision since it makes no sense (arguments above) and the community hate it? C'mon its just a appearance, why make us wait till the other season ends?
Sooo have to wait until Late 2018 or early 2019 until I get my elite gear ? Won't s4 last until the end of Legion and expansions are usually in testing for a year, and they'll announce the next one at blizzcon in November.
05/31/2017 09:55 PMPosted by Kaiba
Sooo have to wait until Late 2018 or early 2019 until I get my elite gear ? Won't s4 last until the end of Legion and expansions are usually in testing for a year, and they'll announce the next one at blizzcon in November.


Nah, we have 3 seasons left. Legion will have at least 6. 4 starting soon, 5 starting in the middle of ToS (I would guess), and 6 dropping around the 7.3 raid tier.

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