Is a Human always in charge?

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I would like to see someone other than a human run the Alliance, like Genn Greyane he would be good.... just kidding. I like the idea of Genn being in the Alliance but doing his own thing and not being the leader.

I am down for a Night Elf or Dwarf leader to step up and become the leader of the Alliance.
09/28/2017 08:59 AMPosted by Cruentum
Then who would you suggest?


Magni
09/28/2017 08:59 AMPosted by Cruentum
09/28/2017 08:58 AMPosted by Tiponya
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Why does everyone think Tyrande is some godly general and beneficent ruler? Every time she tries to lead an army, she either gets completely routed or gets captured. Then on the flipside, she lets Fandral Staghelm almost completely doom her people...


Then who would you suggest?


Basic Campfire...he'll light the way forward #Basiccampfire2020
09/28/2017 08:59 AMPosted by Cruentum
09/28/2017 08:58 AMPosted by Tiponya
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Why does everyone think Tyrande is some godly general and beneficent ruler? Every time she tries to lead an army, she either gets completely routed or gets captured. Then on the flipside, she lets Fandral Staghelm almost completely doom her people...


Then who would you suggest?


Danath Trollbane.
09/28/2017 09:00 AMPosted by Schuleur
09/28/2017 08:59 AMPosted by Cruentum
Then who would you suggest?


Magni


Magni was an ice cube for a while and now is Azeroth´s (or so everyone thinks) b**ch, it´s also possible that he is influenced by the old gods. But hey, I would like a dwarf leader... free beer for everyone!
09/28/2017 08:21 AMPosted by Valeyris
It is kinda funny that you're now ruled by what is basically a college kid, and not the ten thousand year old female nightelf who SHOULD be incredibly intelligent and wise due to her age.


and whiny.
09/28/2017 08:21 AMPosted by Valeyris
It is kinda funny that you're now ruled by what is basically a college kid, and not the ten thousand year old female nightelf who SHOULD be incredibly intelligent and wise due to her age.


Yeah, it's funny how she's always victim of PIS of the devs and have 20 yo Anduin be the epitome of wisdom.

Nothing against humans, i like them a lot and play them. But they're too pampered. It'd be good to see a change even if just once.
A Night Elf would be the worst choice given their LONG history of TERRIBAD decisions.

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Anyone ever notice how the Night Elves, when faced with important, world-changing decisions, INEVITABLY make the wrong ones? If it weren't for Night Elves and their screwups, I'd be inclined to think Azeroth in general would be a much nicer place.

Mistake 1: Destroying the Scepter of the Shifting Sands

Bronze Dragonflight: "Now that we've finally sealed away the nemesis of all Azeroth, here's a scepter should you need to break the seal and fight them again."
Fandral: "WAAAHH!"
breaks scepter*
Bronze Dragonflight: "You dumb f*cker."

Mistake 2: Destroying the Well of Eternity

Queen Azshara: "Blahaharrrgh, I'm addicted to magic!"
Night Elves: "Well I guess that's cool."
Queen Azshara: "Blahahaharrrgh, I'm summoning demons!"
Night Elves: "Ok, that's not so cool."
Bigass War!*
Malfurion: "I've got an idea! Let's blow up the world!"
Tyrande: "Come on, that's your solution to everything."
Malfurion: "No it's not! By the way, hold this."
Tyrande: "Hey, this looks like a-"
KABLOOIE
Tyrande: "...dammit, Malfurion."

Mistake 3: Recreating the Well of Eternity, Then Leaving It There and Falling Asleep

Illidan: "Hey guys, now that we just got done blowing THAT up, I just made a new one!"
Night Elves: "You stupid f*cker."
Malfurion: "Illidan, you're under arrest for playing the devil rock music."
Illidan: "How wude!"
SLAMMER'D!*
Malfurion: "Anyway, let's just plant a tree over top of this sucker and call it a day."
Tyrande: "Uh, what do you want us women to do, Mal honey?"
Malfurion: "You all stay awake and keep the stove warm in case we're hungry when we wake up. Oh, and don't go running off having fun
with your friends or anything, I want you in the kitchen where you belong."
Tyrande: "But-"
Malfurion: "zzzzzzzzzzzz"
Tyrande: "Dammit."

Mistake 4: Staying Asleep

Orcs: "FOR THE HORDE! And also the Burning Legion!"
Night Elves: "zzzzzzzzz"
Undead: "For the lich king! Also, again, the Burning Legion!"
Night Elves: "zzzzzzSNRKzzzzz"

Mistake 5: Picking a Fight with the Orcs

Night Elves: "WTF?! Orcs cutting down our trees? Gettem!"
Cenarius: "I'LL take the case!"
PWNT*
Night Elves: "WTF!!"
Grom Hellscream: [Orcish] kek

Mistake 6: Releasing Illidan

Tyrande: "We need help, gotta wake the druids up. Oh hey, Illidan! I'm sure 10,000 years of confinement has only rehabilitated him."
Illidan: "GROWLowlorarrrr"
Tyrande: "...although I could be wrong."
Illidan: "OOGHRARGHghhh!" *runs off*

Mistake 7: Blowing up the World, AGAIN

Medivh: "Quit fighting you nubs! Archimonde is coming!"
Night Elves: "Oh crap you're right. Too late now!"
Archimonde: "Bwahahahaha!"
Malfurion: "Hey, I've got an idea!"
Everyone: *groans*
KABLOOIE

Mistake 8: Stopping Illidan from killing the Lich King

Malfurion: "OMG! Illidan's doing something crazy to Northrend! Gotta stop him!"
Maiev: "I'm kookoo for catching Illidan!" *trips Tyrande*
Tyrande: "Aiiee!" *falls into river*
Malfurion and Illidan: "I'LL take the case!"
rescue*
Illidan: "So you see, I was trying to DESTROY THE MOST POWERFUL EVIL BEING IN AZEROTH."
Malfurion: "Oh, uh..... my bad."

Mistake 9: Building a new World Tree

Fandral: "Man, I miss immortality. Let's make a new world tree!"
Malfurion: "I don't think that's a good-"
Fandral: "!@#$ nub."
WORLD TREE'D!*
Fandral: "See? This place is great."
Malfurion: "I dunno, it smells kinda bad... and I think I just stepped in some ooze."
Fandral: "Yeah? Well if you don't like it, why don't you go get lost in the Emerald Dream for a few years?!"
Malfurion: "You know what?! I think I will!" *gets lost in the Emerald Dream*
Night Elves: *facepalm*
Rest of Alliance: "Remind me why we put up with these guys?"
Bronze Dragonflight: "Because you're all a bunch of dumb f*ckers."
09/28/2017 08:24 AMPosted by Hamstar
Not just a human, but a MALE human. Horde embraces diversity by appointing the world's first undead female war chief.


And she’s the worst one yet.
The problem is that Blizzard isn't writing the Alliance as a coalition of nations, they're writing it as an empire. The King of Stormwind SHOULDN'T be the leader of the Alliance; he could serve as Supreme Commander of the Alliance Armies or whatever, but not as the overarching leader of the Alliance itself.

The sovereigns of the Alliance should be equal leaders of the coalition. The King of Stormwind can be first-among-equals if you need to give someone some degree of primacy, but overall Darnassus should feel like a coequal partner to Stormwind, not a vassal.

I know politics really doesn't sit well with Warcraft's Heroic Fantasy thing, but we're the Alliance. Not the Empire of Stormwind.
09/28/2017 08:59 AMPosted by Cruentum
Then who would you suggest?

I think Anduin is a really good leader. In his young age he is done a lot of good work, and he hasn't let anyone stop him (neither his father, nor his enemies). If you don't see all he has done, then you haven't been paying attention. Give him more time, and he'll probably do even more good stuff.

Let's not discriminate just because he is young. There's a lot of young people who are much more capable than older men or women. Age only gives you experience, it doesn't make you automatically wiser or smarter.

Tyrande has all this military experience, but she actually has no idea how do deal with people... she can't even control racism in a small camp, how is she supposed to keep peace in a city?
09/28/2017 09:09 AMPosted by Schuleur
Anyone ever notice how the Night Elves, when faced with important, world-changing decisions, INEVITABLY make the wrong ones? If it weren't for Night Elves and their screwups, I'd be inclined to think Azeroth in general would be a much nicer place.


If it weren't for the Night Elves:

Archimonde would've absorbed the power of the World tree and would've destroyed Azeroth.

THe Legion would've killed us right stepping into Outland

And thanks to a Night Elf now Sargeras will be sealed.

So if you mean Azeroth being a better place destroyed or ruled by Archimonde who would've achieved power equal to Sargeras then i agree. Without us it would've been a better place.
i agree... its time for gnomish leadership!
09/28/2017 09:18 AMPosted by Sephiram
If it weren't for the Night Elves:

Archimonde would've absorbed the power of the World tree and would've destroyed Azeroth.

THe Legion would've killed us right stepping into Outland

And thanks to a Night Elf now Sargeras will be sealed.

So if you mean Azeroth being a better place destroyed or ruled by Archimonde who would've achieved power equal to Sargeras then i agree. Without us it would've been a better place.


Did you even read the rest of my post?
09/28/2017 08:21 AMPosted by Valeyris
It is kinda funny that you're now ruled by what is basically a college kid, and not the ten thousand year old female nightelf who SHOULD be incredibly intelligent and wise due to her age.


Probably because Anduin has advisers (ie Velen), and doesn't let his emotions control his actions like she does.

She's done nothing but whine and scream about Malfurion all expansion and be a b*tch to everyone.

Not only that, Anduin takes everyone into consideration, despite alliances or disagreements and tries to do what's best for everybody.
09/28/2017 09:21 AMPosted by Schuleur
Did you even read the rest of my post?


Yeah, and i laughed the first time i read it and now.

But it's obviously comical. My bad if you were joking.
09/28/2017 08:29 AMPosted by Darthaes
Humans are (for some reason) always seen as the 'leaders' of the alliance. I personally believe it comes from their own sense of self-entitlement.


The irony in this is that this is coming from a Blood Elf.
09/28/2017 08:54 AMPosted by Elunè
09/28/2017 08:49 AMPosted by Cruentum
The alliance leader must impose respect, and I don´t think Anduin can impose anything, Tyrande is a logical choice

Is Tyrande's last name Wrynn? I think not.


If she got a divorce and were into humans it could be..
09/28/2017 09:19 AMPosted by Scruit
i agree... its time for gnomish leadership!


You guys can't even recapture your own city after ten years...
09/28/2017 09:09 AMPosted by Schuleur
Anyone ever notice how the Night Elves, when faced with important, world-changing decisions, INEVITABLY make the wrong ones? If it weren't for Night Elves and their screwups, I'd be inclined to think Azeroth in general would be a much nicer place.


I don't think an orc is really in any place to criticize the night elves. Your entire history has basically been showing you're nothing but a bunch of dumb rock eaters who can't help but get into fights they invariably lose. You guys got enslaved by the Legion in two different timelines because you were so eager to fight and Gul'dan has done nothing but fail and get himself killed.

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