Lor'themar rejects Alleria

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11/07/2017 10:40 AMPosted by Pellex
11/07/2017 10:38 AMPosted by Rokugan
Two things were known. One, Varian wanted to open talks with Lor'themar. Two, Lor'themar was considering other options. Those two things weren't said together.

Lor'themar said it might be "time to renew old alliances." I think that's a pretty strong hint.


Sure did, after getting condescended to by Garrosh while his people were being used as arcane cannon fodder. It took all the charm and racism of Garrosh for Lor'themar to even consider rejoining the Alliance. But Garrosh is dead now, Jaina mistreated his people too, and Lor'themar clearly is happy with where he is.

So the only problem here is another thread created by someone who never quested Horde side and never bothered to learn about context.
11/07/2017 10:56 AMPosted by Theadrel
11/07/2017 10:53 AMPosted by Basinah
Hold up...

Source?


http://warcraft.blizzplanet.com/blog/comments/updates-stormwind-orgrimmar-battle-azeroth-demo

Red shirt guy wrote this.


Thanks! A lot of intriguing details there...
It makes sense that Turalyon would be the one who suggests bringing the Lightforged in.

That said, I read on MMO-Champ that they have noting planned for Wrathion this expac. So here's hoping he remains keeping an eye on Anduin.

I don't need him to do anything crazy and special, but I do want to see Anduin ride into battle on a black dragon at least once.
11/07/2017 11:17 AMPosted by Daiza
It makes sense that Turalyon would be the one who suggests bringing the Lightforged in.

That said, I read on MMO-Champ that they have noting planned for Wrathion this expac. So here's hoping he remains keeping an eye on Anduin.

I don't need him to do anything crazy and special, but I do want to see Anduin ride into battle on a black dragon at least once.

I hope the first question we ask him is "Where the !@#$ you been?"
11/07/2017 11:20 AMPosted by Destrala

I hope the first question we ask him is "Where the !@#$ you been?"


I hope the first question we ask is a statement.

"You better transform now because after what you put me through on Draenor, we are fighting right now. Anduin can fix what left later"
After Sylvanas kills Lor'themar and raises him to replace Nathanos, we'll see if the next Regent of Quel'Thalas wants to keep the High Kingdom in the Horde. I don't think Lor'themar is going to leave it.

Though the fact the offer was made and some Blood Elves will end up going Alliance only proves him to be the worlds biggest hypocrite.
11/07/2017 11:17 AMPosted by Daiza
That said, I read on MMO-Champ that they have noting planned for Wrathion this expac. So here's hoping he remains keeping an eye on Anduin.


I'd put money on his playing a big role in Before the Storm, at the very least.
Not only are the Blood Elves all in for the Horde, they're bringing in new recruits!

Hey, Nightfallen!
Right now a victory between the Horde and Alliance can't be decided.

Swapping sides doesn't exactly equal security for the Blood Elves.

Sylvanas has them completely severed from the outside world.

The Forsaken capital is in Tirisfal, it has a significant hold over the EPL, Hillsbrad, and Arathi- cutting off land lines between Quel'thalas and the nearest Alliance stronghold of Dun Morogh.

The Forsaken navy could also blockade the Elven ships in the Great Sea, thanks to ports in Lordaeron, Howling Fjord, and we could assume Stormheim by this point.

Additionally, even if Alleria is willing to forgive the Blood Elves and give Lor'themar an equal seat on the Alliance, there is no guarantee the other Alliance members would. Plus, many of the Blood Elven people probably still hate the Alliance, view it with suspicion, and recognize its own xenophobic, racist history.

Pragmatically, until the Forsaken are destroyed and Alliance come knocking at the gates, the Blood Elves best allegiance is to the Horde.
Just face it , us blood elves look better in red.

Horde are stuck with us.
I really need them to put the meeting in the novel, or something.

I'd love for Alleria to approach Lor'Themar and Rommath with the audacity to try and bring them back into the Alliance.

I'd also love to know what Alleria even think of her people, after all that she has missed. Something beyond, "Ew, you're Horde now."
11/07/2017 12:27 PMPosted by Hackbrew
I'd love for Alleria to approach Lor'Themar and Rommath with the audacity to try and bring them back into the Alliance.

I'd also love to know what Alleria even think of her people, after all that she has missed. Something beyond, "Ew, you're Horde now."


I can pretty much see how it would go. Alleria would be allowed to enter Quel'Thalas with the strict knowledge, right at the Thalassian Pass, that she would only be remaining as a Blood Elf, for the Horde. She'd enter anyways, hoping to convince Lor'themar, and with each passing village she goes through (escorted, of course), those hopes drop.

Finally at Sunfury Spire, knowing it is her duty, she tries. Lor'themar's response would probably be along the lines of.

"Absolutely not. Quel'Thalas has been betrayed by the Alliance too many times. We have found True allies in the Horde. That may be difficult for you to believe, it was for me as well, but we've all been victims of the Legion and other dark forces. We will not abandon those who have stood by us now.

"For your past deeds to Quel'Thalas, I have granted you permission to walk the High Kingdom. Swear your allegiance to the Horde, and you will be welcome to remain. If you will not, then I recommend you make preparations to leave by sunset. I will not tolerate any who place their loyalty to their own people and kingdom beneath that of any other nation or power."
Good. I hope he has her dragged out of Silvermoon by her hair.
Why would Lor'themar want to join the Alliance? The only race over there the blood elves get along with is draenei and the draenei have basically no power in the Alliance. Humans and night elves are both racist towards blood elves.
11/07/2017 12:27 PMPosted by Hackbrew
I really need them to put the meeting in the novel, or something.

I'd love for Alleria to approach Lor'Themar and Rommath with the audacity to try and bring them back into the Alliance.

I'd also love to know what Alleria even think of her people, after all that she has missed. Something beyond, "Ew, you're Horde now."


Exactly. Even though we know the outcome of the meeting. The sheer significance of this event should be handled properly. After all, despite my own personal feelings about Alleria's story arc in Argus, the last time Alleria saw her homeland was during the Second War. She wouldn't understand the full grasp of just what the Sin'dorei have gone through over the years with just a few lines from her sister.

Plus any excuse to give Lor'Themar some time in the spot-light is a plus in my booklet.

That being said. My main fear is that her meeting with Lor'Themar will be off screen background dialogue that no one will give a second glance at.
11/07/2017 01:05 PMPosted by Lena
the draenei have basically no power in the Alliance.
What determines a race's approximate power in the Alliance?
11/07/2017 01:10 PMPosted by Irenaus
11/07/2017 01:05 PMPosted by Lena
the draenei have basically no power in the Alliance.
What determines a race's approximate power in the Alliance?


Their ability to influence things. Draenei have basically none.
!@#$ like this makes me wonder when we will see Kael'thas resurrecting with the powers of the Phoenix God to beat the %^-* outta of Lor'themar
11/07/2017 01:14 PMPosted by Lena
11/07/2017 01:10 PMPosted by Irenaus
... What determines a race's approximate power in the Alliance?


Their ability to influence things. Draenei have basically none.
Theoretically they have that ability to a fair degree.
I mean, I still don't think blood elves fit in the Horde, But it's still better than becoming void infused swine like Aleria and her worthless followers. He made the right choice keeping his city clean from such swine.

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