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05/16/2018 10:19 AMPosted by Reddrake
05/16/2018 09:57 AMPosted by Ythisens
I'm not being combative at all. I asked for the proof so it could be fixed and OP gave none because they had none. They came onto the internet and told a lie and I called them out on it.

BfA Spoiler: I'll still be like this then too. Everyone is free to post and say what they want but if someone is gonna jump onto the forums and make up something then they'd best be prepared for people to correct them, even a blue.


In the short time that you have been a community manager you have developed a track record for alienating and humiliating customers by both calling them liars and inferring that they are lying.

To be clear- the fans are the community. You, the employee, are the industry. When I tell my lunchtime hot dog vendor I am the Shah of Iran he thanks me for buying his hot dogs and moves on to the next customer. There is wisdom in doing business like this.

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Your idiotic analogies aside, there's one thing you seem to be mis-undertstanding.

the OP did in fact lie.

If you were to stand next to the hot dog vendor and lie to people buying the hot dogs about the quality of the meat or how it was made, I guarantee you that you wouldn't be treated like the Shah of Iran. You'd instead be escorted away by a couple of police officers.
To be clear- the fans are the community. You, the employee, are the industry. When I tell my lunchtime hot dog vendor I am the Shah of Iran he thanks me for buying his hot dogs and moves on to the next customer. There is wisdom in doing business like this.


I get what your saying, but being a 'fan' doesn't give a person a 'get out of jail free' card. being an 'industry' also doesn't mean ' welcome mat' the customer is not always right.

I personally find it refreshing that a blue called someone out on their BS. and i didn't see it as rude how he did it either. OP provided no proof. thus, he was trolling. he got called out on it.
Yesterday I found out that the position I was applying to had 1800 candidates (just one position available), that had nothing to do with Blizzard but showed me that getting a job is hard. The salary for this one was not even that great.
05/16/2018 09:57 AMPosted by Ythisens
05/16/2018 03:32 AMPosted by Reddrake
I know you probably think you are WOKEAF being openly combative with your customers. You are only getting away with it because the only people playing right now are Blizzard fanboys. When Battle for Azeroth comes out and everyone comes back you had better change your tune.


I'm not being combative at all. I asked for the proof so it could be fixed and OP gave none because they had none. They came onto the internet and told a lie and I called them out on it.

BfA Spoiler: I'll still be like this then too. Everyone is free to post and say what they want but if someone is gonna jump onto the forums and make up something then they'd best be prepared for people to correct them, even a blue.


This right here....

Keep this attitude, pretty sure i love you now you little glowy ox thing
05/16/2018 12:06 PMPosted by Banknorris
Yesterday I found out that the position I was applying to had 1800 candidates (just one position available), that had nothing to do with Blizzard but showed me that getting a job is hard. The salary for this one was not even that great.


Most good jobs are gotten through people you know. Spend a lot of time networking at night, industry events, and conferences. No matter what industry you go towards. It also looks good to your peers that you are active in your field beyond 9-5.
05/15/2018 05:17 PMPosted by Ythisens
05/15/2018 05:03 PMPosted by Rorrand
Haven't seen anyone respond to Ythisens' post asking for proof yet.

Cause OP came onto the internet and lied.


OH, SNAP! Shut down!!!

BfA Spoiler: I'll still be like this then too. Everyone is free to post and say what they want but if someone is gonna jump onto the forums and make up something then they'd best be prepared for people to correct them, even a blue.


I agree; you and the blues shouldn't need to tap dance around people making outlandish claims. Plain and simple calling BS.
05/16/2018 11:07 AMPosted by Kulgrin
The only job I see on the Blizz website that is "entry level" is the exec assistant position and that requires 4 or so years experience (which isn't outlandish if you're going to be assisting an exec at a gigantic company).

An Executive Assistant isn't an entry level gig. That's pretty well established territory. An example of someone in that role at Blizzard could potentially be reporting/representing a Mike Morhaime or a J. Allen Brack directly.
05/16/2018 09:57 AMPosted by Ythisens
05/16/2018 03:32 AMPosted by Reddrake
I know you probably think you are WOKEAF being openly combative with your customers. You are only getting away with it because the only people playing right now are Blizzard fanboys. When Battle for Azeroth comes out and everyone comes back you had better change your tune.


I'm not being combative at all. I asked for the proof so it could be fixed and OP gave none because they had none. They came onto the internet and told a lie and I called them out on it.

BfA Spoiler: I'll still be like this then too. Everyone is free to post and say what they want but if someone is gonna jump onto the forums and make up something then they'd best be prepared for people to correct them, even a blue.

^ This is a breath of fresh air actually. I am very happy to see a Blue call people out on blatant lies like the OP did. I am all for this. Ythisens was not being combative at all either.

To add to the topic, it shows the people who have no clue how this industry works or the pay. Let alone what entry level really means.
^ This is a breath of fresh air actually. I am very happy to see a Blue call people out on blatant lies like the OP did. I am all for this. Anyone who took Ythisens as being combative is might have fragile skin.


I want to take this opportunity to point out that when someone picks a fight and then claims you're offensive for daring to defend yourself it's textbook narcissism.
05/16/2018 12:44 PMPosted by Ythisens
05/16/2018 11:07 AMPosted by Kulgrin
The only job I see on the Blizz website that is "entry level" is the exec assistant position and that requires 4 or so years experience (which isn't outlandish if you're going to be assisting an exec at a gigantic company).

An Executive Assistant isn't an entry level gig. That's pretty well established territory. An example of someone in that role at Blizzard could potentially be reporting/representing a Mike Morhaime or a J. Allen Brack directly.


$15,000 loan from grandma.

$1.8b net worth (est.)

I'd fetch his coffee for a few years just to learn from someone like that. I bet his "assistants" have some bull dog negotiating skills too.
we dont need bkp garbage here,the blame cliff for everything but their games where pretty mediocre
05/16/2018 12:44 PMPosted by Ythisens
05/16/2018 11:07 AMPosted by Kulgrin
The only job I see on the Blizz website that is "entry level" is the exec assistant position and that requires 4 or so years experience (which isn't outlandish if you're going to be assisting an exec at a gigantic company).

An Executive Assistant isn't an entry level gig. That's pretty well established territory. An example of someone in that role at Blizzard could potentially be reporting/representing a Mike Morhaime or a J. Allen Brack directly.


I've worked as an exec (and admin) assistant before, so spare me.

It is "entry level" in comparison to the other jobs listed on the jobs board and it is a job that is also, comparatively, low skill. Again, I can say that because I've done it for years.
05/16/2018 01:48 PMPosted by Kulgrin
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An Executive Assistant isn't an entry level gig. That's pretty well established territory. An example of someone in that role at Blizzard could potentially be reporting/representing a Mike Morhaime or a J. Allen Brack directly.


I've worked as an exec (and admin) assistant before, so spare me.

It is "entry level" in comparison to the other jobs listed on the jobs board and it is a job that is also, comparatively, low skill. Again, I can say that because I've done it for years.


You didn't work as an executive assistant for a billionaire. I'm sure your secretarial work was impressive.
05/16/2018 12:44 PMPosted by Ythisens
05/16/2018 11:07 AMPosted by Kulgrin
The only job I see on the Blizz website that is "entry level" is the exec assistant position and that requires 4 or so years experience (which isn't outlandish if you're going to be assisting an exec at a gigantic company).

An Executive Assistant isn't an entry level gig. That's pretty well established territory. An example of someone in that role at Blizzard could potentially be reporting/representing a Mike Morhaime or a J. Allen Brack directly.


That is not a difficult job. You're describing a secretarial position. Yes, it's an important job, but it's not high level stuff.
05/16/2018 02:06 PMPosted by Slaanesh


That is not a difficult job. You're describing a secretarial position. Yes, it's an important job, but it's not high level stuff.


Also has no idea what working for a billionaire means.
05/16/2018 02:08 PMPosted by Wyspers
05/16/2018 02:06 PMPosted by Slaanesh


That is not a difficult job. You're describing a secretarial position. Yes, it's an important job, but it's not high level stuff.


Also has no idea what working for a billionaire means.


Tell me what it means, oh wise one. Enlighten us all.
05/16/2018 02:11 PMPosted by Slaanesh
05/16/2018 02:08 PMPosted by Wyspers
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Also has no idea what working for a billionaire means.


Tell me what it means, oh wise one. Enlighten us all.


Depends on the UHNWI. Some of them need nannies.
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An Executive Assistant isn't an entry level gig. That's pretty well established territory. An example of someone in that role at Blizzard could potentially be reporting/representing a Mike Morhaime or a J. Allen Brack directly.


I've worked as an exec (and admin) assistant before, so spare me.

It is "entry level" in comparison to the other jobs listed on the jobs board and it is a job that is also, comparatively, low skill. Again, I can say that because I've done it for years.


The Executive Assists at my company make over $150k/yr. And we're a midwest company, these are not West Coast wages. It is in no way an entry level position if you work for strong, established companies. It is in no way a "low skill" job.
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I've worked as an exec (and admin) assistant before, so spare me.

It is "entry level" in comparison to the other jobs listed on the jobs board and it is a job that is also, comparatively, low skill. Again, I can say that because I've done it for years.


The Executive Assists at my company make over $150k/yr. And we're a midwest company, these are not West Coast wages. It is in no way an entry level position if you work for strong, established companies.


Degrees in biz admin, accounting, law, or in my home town biology + biz admin. Often practically a co-chair in the board, except strictly executes agenda for the decision makers.

Will ruin you as a vendor if they are angry.

Also may be a part time nanny to a genius who can't tie their shoes.

Can get someone they hate fired.
05/16/2018 02:13 PMPosted by Wyspers
05/16/2018 02:11 PMPosted by Slaanesh
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Tell me what it means, oh wise one. Enlighten us all.


Depends on the UHNWI. Some of them need nannies.


That's not an answer. That's a copout. Be more specific. Doctors "need" nannies, and they're not necessarily "UHNWI" individuals. They just have very little time to manage mundane tasks like organizing their schedule.

A billionaire like, "Mike Morhaime" is not necessarily more busy than a heart surgeon. Yet, he's worth more. That doesn't mean he needs a better secretary. It just means he can afford a better looking one.

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