Night Elves ambushed in Ashenvale??

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Why exactly are Night Elves being ambushed in their home forests of all places? You know, the beings most attuned to nature and the forests who are supposed to essentially be the amazonian race of WoW getting ambushed by a bunch of abominations.

I remember in WC3 when you could actually play Night Elves.

It's a shame we have been homogenized into purple humans for decades and made into a bad hippie tree-hugger joke. of a race.

I guess it's the norm for Blizzard to raise the Humans at the expense of the other races so why am I surprised. This is just a continuation of that sad policy.
Maybe one day we'll see the actual savage and ferocious Night Elves of Warcraft 3 again that made Grom Hellscream even nod in respect for their cunning fierceness in warfare, but I won't hold my breath.

For now we're delegated to the red shirts of WoW so shambling corpses can practice more agility than the noble kaldorei elves.

It's like Blizzard completely forgot the racial strengths/weaknesses of these two races.

tldr: It should not have been stealth ambushes and agile tactics that defeated the Kaldorei in Ashenvale. That should have been the tactics employed of the Kaldorei resistance.

It's fine for us to lose, but at least get the damn strategies right.

This is the equivalent of the Gnomes successfully invading Mul'gore and winning the battle because of brute strength, or the Tauren conquering the Exodar from the Draenei after outmatching them in technology.

RIP WC3
07/24/2018 11:23 AMPosted by Multke
Maybe one day we'll see the actual savage and ferocious Night Elves of Warcraft 3 again that made Grom Hellscream even nod in respect for their fierceness in warfare, but I won't hold my breath.


No, you wont. The Night elves will remain de-fanged so that the alliance can maintain its moral high ground. "Moral grayness" is a Horde-only feature.
Yeah, it is a little odd. Sylvanas does make mention of the ferocity of night elves in combat during one of the horde side quests though, stating something like "give these savages no quarter, for they shall do the same".
Because its impossible to catch an opponent flat footed?
07/24/2018 11:21 AMPosted by Multke
Why exactly are Night Elves being ambushed in their home forests of all places?


Because Blood Elf rangers and rogues are very good at what they do.

07/24/2018 11:23 AMPosted by Multke
Maybe one day we'll see the actual savage and ferocious Night Elves of Warcraft 3 again that made Grom Hellscream even nod in respect for their cunning fierceness in warfare, but I won't hold my breath.


The Night Elves of Warcraft 3 were ambushed by 12 foot tall demons AND mindless skeletons.

As far as I can see, that the Horde needed to employ steal specialists means that the Night Elves of today are better than the Night Elves of Warcraft 3.
because goblin shredders are known for being quiet and sneaky
Trolls and Blood Elves are just as at home in the forests as Night Elves are.

Sylvanas fought the Amani in the forests of Quel'thalas all her life if anyone could develop a strategy to fight forest warriors it would be her.
Portals bob. Portals.
It's to show how tough and skilled the horde are. That's been the point of night elves in the lore for awhile - to be horde punching bags.
Hundreds of rogues attacked using shadow magic to hide their presence in the daytime - The time of day NIGHT Elves are least able to see ambushes!
Surprise race war!
Because a small army of rogues sabotaged all your outposts simultaneously and killed your mounts.

And last I checked rogues are a pretty iconic undead class.
Night Elves have always been the punching bag in the lore. Both in treatment within the lore, as well as the treatment of their lore themselves. Time and time again, Blizzard slaps the Kaldorei in the face and either forget, rewrite, or simply disregard pre-established lore.
Most of the sentinels are not in the initial attack. What's left in Ashenvale is not the bulk of the night elf forces.

And I feel there's plenty of fangs in it taking the entire Horde to fight whoever the night elves left behind while most of the army was down in Sithilus. Alone. Without the rest of the Alliance. A SKELETON FORCE OF SENTINELS. And the Horde still can't manage without cheap tricks.

I mean, sure, the game could show it better, but the night elves are still here.
because they needed to give the horde a "victory", horde plot armor!.

malfurion could solo that army, hell he could even solo the horde.
07/24/2018 12:31 PMPosted by Etheldald
malfurion could solo that army, hell he could even solo the horde.


It's been demonstrated that Malfurion couldn't tank a single throwing axe. He's powerful but, lets try to keep things in perspective here.
07/24/2018 12:26 PMPosted by Anyaka
Most of the sentinels are not in the initial attack. What's left in Ashenvale is not the bulk of the night elf forces.

And I feel there's plenty of fangs in it taking the entire Horde to fight whoever the night elves left behind while most of the army was down in Sithilus. Alone. Without the rest of the Alliance. A SKELETON FORCE OF SENTINELS. And the Horde still can't manage without cheap tricks.

I mean, sure, the game could show it better, but the night elves are still here.


The problem is "but we held out really well for what we had!" doesn't really make a crushing defeat where what token force we had available is slaughtered and all of our homelands are conquered in 15 minutes of questing feel any better. It doesn't matter that we "made them work for it". We still got the ever-living crap kicked out of us and I doubt Blizz will ever allow the Night Elves to recover.
07/24/2018 12:26 PMPosted by Anyaka
Most of the sentinels are not in the initial attack. What's left in Ashenvale is not the bulk of the night elf forces.

And I feel there's plenty of fangs in it taking the entire Horde to fight whoever the night elves left behind while most of the army was down in Sithilus. Alone. Without the rest of the Alliance. A SKELETON FORCE OF SENTINELS. And the Horde still can't manage without cheap tricks.

I mean, sure, the game could show it better, but the night elves are still here.


IRRC, I don't even think its Sentinels. It's the Darnassian Guard Force that holds off the Horde at first. Essentially cops. The Sentinel Army does show up at the end of todays quests, but so much was already lost.

But hey, at least the Night Elven equivalent of SWAT was able to hold off an army for a while, right|?
07/24/2018 12:50 PMPosted by Ferlion
07/24/2018 12:26 PMPosted by Anyaka
Most of the sentinels are not in the initial attack. What's left in Ashenvale is not the bulk of the night elf forces.

And I feel there's plenty of fangs in it taking the entire Horde to fight whoever the night elves left behind while most of the army was down in Sithilus. Alone. Without the rest of the Alliance. A SKELETON FORCE OF SENTINELS. And the Horde still can't manage without cheap tricks.

I mean, sure, the game could show it better, but the night elves are still here.


IRRC, I don't even think its Sentinels. It's the Darnassian Guard Force that holds off the Horde at first. Essentially cops.


It's really hard to say, because it's the kind of thing Blizzard doesn't really do... elaborate on racial cultures, the way their militaries operate, etc. Are only the units labled as "Sentinels" actually Sentinels? Or are they all Sentinels? Are there other parts of the Darnassian military besides the Sentinels or what? No one knows.

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