How can the Horde be redeemed?

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09/12/2018 04:27 PMPosted by Tulips
this is good because it allows me to finally use the best image ive ever found

https://78.media.tumblr.com/ea70a3aaf18c7a1a64ffebeb9dce0773/tumblr_pcrp6uMyBO1rvrsbgo1_500.jpg


Lmao
09/12/2018 04:19 PMPosted by Ursuola
Sometimes I wonder if people default to this weird half-IC thing as a defense mechanism against being told their take is dumb.


The old "I WAS JUST IC! I WAS JUST IC, BRO!" defense.

Classic.
it was just a prank, bro
09/12/2018 04:27 PMPosted by Tulips
https://78.media.tumblr.com/ea70a3aaf18c7a1a64ffebeb9dce0773/tumblr_pcrp6uMyBO1rvrsbgo1_500.jpg

god i don't even get sourced as the OP of that, just an image link and not back to my blog

donate to my patreon
09/12/2018 04:24 PMPosted by Kiranyfe
Just because I disagree with you all does not make me a forum troll. ICly my character is pure evil and I just like hyping the Horde oocly

Wait, so you genuinely disagree with everybody about what's evil and what's not evil or you just enjoy RPing an evil character?

Because it kind of seems like you're trying to have it both ways.
09/12/2018 03:58 PMPosted by Kiranyfe
09/12/2018 03:44 PMPosted by Lahilahi
...

He did that without him knowing.
Also Genn stopped her from enslaving another race of beings. But I guess death and tyranny is what the Horde stands for now.


Sylvanas was simply trying to gain the allegiance of the Val"kyr enslaved by Helya to secure a future for her people. She would have freed them from an evil being.

We stand for the total eradication of the Alliance which will be the only way for peace. The Alliance refuses to allow the Foresaken a right to exist. Sure they let living and Foresaken relatives meet, but that was just an attempt by Calia Menethil to reclaim the throne her family relinquished when her brother betrayed Lordaeron and she went to hide in Southshore instead of helping her people.

There is only one way this war ends, and that's with the Horde ruling all of Azeroth. After all Azeroth belong to the trolls who were betrayed by the elves long ago.


I too dabble in the art of trolling from time to time.
Imma play catch up :D

09/12/2018 12:39 PMPosted by Shantarin
It is basically the same point except the Forsaken can't have children so they resort to war crimes and crimes against sentient beings where white supremacists are like, 'please sleep with me white women.'

And yeah, the Forsaken commit war crimes against civilian populations- Hillsbrad says hi- for no reason other than them not being undead. The Forsaken are fascists. Why do I have to explain this?

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy. honestly it feels like that could be applied to everyone on azeroth

This perfectly describes the Forsaken.


Rubbish. There's parellels between dictatorship and Sylvanas' regime, but she does not firmly fit any particular political mantra. There's been inspiration drawn from some sources. That's literally it.

09/12/2018 03:44 PMPosted by Lahilahi
He did that without him knowing.
Also Genn stopped her from enslaving another race of beings. But I guess death and tyranny is what the Horde stands for now.


I mean yes, but Genn's initial goal was to kill Sylvanas. The only thing explicitly clear at the beginning of Stormheim was that she was escorting a Horde Hero to the Broken Isles so that said hero could retrieve the aegis of Aggramar. So Genn's INITIAL actions weren't even remotely altruistic, and are a legitimate gripe of the Horde. He attempted to assassinate the actual leader of the Horde. Wars have been started over less.

09/12/2018 03:58 PMPosted by Kiranyfe
Sylvanas was simply trying to gain the allegiance of the Val"kyr enslaved by Helya to secure a future for her people. She would have freed them from an evil being.

We stand for the total eradication of the Alliance which will be the only way for peace. The Alliance refuses to allow the Foresaken a right to exist. Sure they let living and Foresaken relatives meet, but that was just an attempt by Calia Menethil to reclaim the throne her family relinquished when her brother betrayed Lordaeron and she went to hide in Southshore instead of helping her people.

There is only one way this war ends, and that's with the Horde ruling all of Azeroth. After all Azeroth belong to the trolls who were betrayed by the elves long ago.


I'm not with her.
09/12/2018 04:58 PMPosted by Liotuse
god i don't even get sourced as the OP of that, just an image link and not back to my blog

donate to my patreon

even if im a clown who forgot to link via source, youre still my favorite, butt-trumpet man. im forwarding you bitcoin as we speak

on a more ~relevant~ note anyone trying to defend the horde's penchant for genocide is legally obligated to allow me into their home so i can eat all the food in their fridge. like, i love thrall's horde and don't blame horde players, but hoo boy
09/12/2018 06:47 PMPosted by Tulips
on a more ~relevant~ note anyone trying to defend the horde's penchant for genocide is legally obligated to allow me into their home so i can eat all the food in their fridge. like, i love thrall's horde and don't blame horde players, but hoo boy

I have a lot of leftovers so please do this.
09/12/2018 06:47 PMPosted by Tulips
on a more ~relevant~ note anyone trying to defend the horde's penchant for genocide is legally obligated to allow me into their home so i can eat all the food in their fridge. like, i love thrall's horde and don't blame horde players, but hoo boy


I'm not even raising that flag but I got some stuff I don't mind sharing. We have some leftover "fake" lasagna (made with strips of zucchini instead of pasta, surprisingly tasty, a big bowl o' pudding and fresh raspberry muffins. I need to not eat any more sugar and I'm gonna if somebody doesn't help me.
Hey. HEY. The only one here who's allowed the title of 'Forum Troll' is me. >:C
09/12/2018 08:44 PMPosted by Zatiya
Hey. HEY. The only one here who's allowed the title of 'Forum Troll' is me. >:C


i have been here long before you and i will be here long after you have passed mortal
09/12/2018 08:50 PMPosted by Zenztli
09/12/2018 08:44 PMPosted by Zatiya
Hey. HEY. The only one here who's allowed the title of 'Forum Troll' is me. >:C


i have been here long before you and i will be here long after you have passed mortal


Hmm.

Gonna be honest.

Feel like you two should sword fight.
09/12/2018 06:47 PMPosted by Tulips
even if im a clown who forgot to link via source, youre still my favorite, butt-trumpet man.

tumblr is a hellhole i don't need the credit, but the notes in it tickle me
09/12/2018 06:47 PMPosted by Tulips
on a more ~relevant~ note anyone trying to defend the horde's penchant for genocide is legally obligated to allow me into their home so i can eat all the food in their fridge. like, i love thrall's horde and don't blame horde players, but hoo boy

On my path to 120 on my troll, I've been having so many "why is the Horde doing this" and "why is this character on the Horde's side" moments.
09/12/2018 09:38 PMPosted by Karmas
09/12/2018 08:50 PMPosted by Zenztli
...

i have been here long before you and i will be here long after you have passed mortal


Hmm.

Gonna be honest.

Feel like you two should sword fight.


But I'm a caster. :O
09/12/2018 09:38 PMPosted by Karmas
09/12/2018 08:50 PMPosted by Zenztli
...

i have been here long before you and i will be here long after you have passed mortal


Hmm.

Gonna be honest.

Feel like you two should sword fight.


No, no! A rap battle!
09/12/2018 03:57 PMPosted by Ursuola
...you know, come to think of it, does anyone even really know about what happened in Stormheim beyond Genn, Sylvanas, and Eyir? The latter two aren't exactly chatty with Anduin and I doubt Genn would run back to Stormwind going "haha wow man I just slammed the hell out of sylvanas wanna hear about it?"


Troops died in the fighting and the Skyfire, flagship of the airfleet, joined the long line of airships that have crashed spectacularly. If Anduin didn't know about it, it would be a pretty damning critique of his leadership.

In "Before the Storm" it is very quickly glossed over that Anduin did find out about the attack in Stormheim, that he wasn't thrilled, but that he didn't actually do anything meaningful about it.
I was hoping that there might be a cutscene where anduin would try to punish Greymane somehow for his actions in stormheim, only for all the other alliance leaders to voice disapproval, with their stances ranging from outright approval of Greymane's actions to believing that even though he acted in bad faith it was ultimately for the good of all that he stopped Sylvanas from enslaving Eyir.

Anduin is unable to counter their arguments and Greymane goes unpunished.

Then we zoom out of that scene to show dark ranger spies observing it all, or perhaps a goblin spy machine, which reports back to Sylvanas all that has happened and she could use it as proof that despite Anduin's peacemongering he cannot stop the elements of the Alliance that want horde blood, and thus war is inevitable.

That would fix a lot of the problems I have with the current story of the game to be honest!
09/13/2018 04:57 AMPosted by Lintsehsu
I was hoping that there might be a cutscene where anduin would try to punish Greymane somehow for his actions in stormheim, only for all the other alliance leaders to voice disapproval, with their stances ranging from outright approval of Greymane's actions to believing that even though he acted in bad faith it was ultimately for the good of all that he stopped Sylvanas from enslaving Eyir.

Anduin is unable to counter their arguments and Greymane goes unpunished.

Then we zoom out of that scene to show dark ranger spies observing it all, or perhaps a goblin spy machine, which reports back to Sylvanas all that has happened and she could use it as proof that despite Anduin's peacemongering he cannot stop the elements of the Alliance that want horde blood, and thus war is inevitable.

That would fix a lot of the problems I have with the current story of the game to be honest!


And thus continues the trend of randos on the forums having better story ideas than Blizzard.
I would love to see Shantarin trying to make a post justifying the genocide of the troll races by the humans, elves and dwarves. Not sure what E-drug you're on but christ friend you are hilarious

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