Is spreading racism and hatefulness bannable?

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09/08/2018 09:23 PMPosted by Bacia
09/08/2018 06:57 PMPosted by Krypollo
Just stop being offended. You don't have to be offended. Being offended is a choice.


Being offended isn't a choice, it's a response. Just like when someone makes moronic statements in a forum, you automatically say to yourself, 'wtf?'.


It can be both, people can choose to be offended by the most menial and pointless things, and they can feel the surge of sudden response.

The question is, are we incapable of controlling our emotions, are we not able to control what and how we respond to things anymore?

How one responds is more important than the feeling of response.
09/08/2018 09:42 PMPosted by Strmwatch
That's the epitome of pathetic. You're probably still screaming at the sky over it.
Nah.

I'm just super happy I'm Canadian.
09/08/2018 05:37 PMPosted by Djshamwow
I saw a guild ( I wont say the name ) recruiting saying only a certain race and political/religious view were allowed to join. They have pro-!@#$ names and are being toxic. Is that type of behaviour bannable and if so will they just force name changes or will they actually get disbanded?
If Trolls want to make an all Troll guild in an RP server, why not.
09/08/2018 06:38 PMPosted by Tusend
09/08/2018 06:37 PMPosted by Aedacien
is that race white, that politics right wing, or that religion Christian? If so yes, it is a bannable offense.

Imagine feeling like this much of a victim all the time.


Just think, he had to turn away from Fox to write that comment. The fear is real with him.
09/08/2018 08:32 PMPosted by Méo
09/08/2018 07:52 PMPosted by Rdord
You can have LGBT and black only WoW communities.

You cannot have a straight or white only community.

So yes, in this case, the double standard would work to your benefit if you report them.

Eh, it's totally fine to make social guilds even if you're not a minority, as long as you don't come out sexist or racist when recruiting. I can't see anything wrong with making your guild a social hub for guys to talk about guy things, for example. But if your reasoning for having an all-men guild is because you think "women are drama makers" then yeah you deserve to have your guild disbanded.

Except maybe if your guild is a top ranking guild in mythic raiding or PvE. Then Blizzard will probably take offense if you exclude people for social reasons because it reflects bad on the game and the community if <social group> is not allowed to compete there.

But that's very unlikely because guilds that accept people based on social criteria instead of their gaming preference tend to not get very far. Usually what happens is that people can't agree on that to do and the guild ends up doing nothing because anything causes drama.


Incorrect.

You cannot make a guild just for men, or just for straight people, or just for white people.

You can however make female, black or LGBT only guilds.
They're allowed to exclude anybody they want from their guild. For any reason.

If they're harassing people in chat, though, then that's a bit different.
09/08/2018 06:53 PMPosted by Hankypanky
09/08/2018 06:45 PMPosted by Tusend
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We must also move away from the belief that anyone has a right to offend anyone they want without consequences.


Sure! I mean you can offend people if you want, just know you will be punished. I don't know why that is a hard concept for some.

No one is stopping you, but just pack some bags for that nice vacation after... This is like a interesting way to teach anger management and how to be civil.

Just ask yourself, "Is it worth being silenced?" I would think most would answer no. "Do I need to say this thing that might offend someone... I might get silenced." Then probably you don't need to say it.

Edit: (I'm using the general "you" not accusing the person I quoted of anything. I was agreeing with them.)


There is a very good poem written about the Fabian socialist by Rudyard Kipling in 1919. The poem outlines how at first they started telling you what you could and could not say, and ended in mass murder of the minority. There is a reason people fight so hard over being able to speak the truth even if it offends someone. Because history has shown us the dangers of silencing people.

The Gods of the Copybook Headings

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
I can see roll play servers doing something where a guild would only recruit from one race. I could also see a draenei called "Hans Human" wearing a human mask trying to sneak into all human guild.
Ignore them. That's the easiest way to go about it. Takes little to no effort.
09/08/2018 11:16 PMPosted by Rdord
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Eh, it's totally fine to make social guilds even if you're not a minority, as long as you don't come out sexist or racist when recruiting. I can't see anything wrong with making your guild a social hub for guys to talk about guy things, for example. But if your reasoning for having an all-men guild is because you think "women are drama makers" then yeah you deserve to have your guild disbanded.

Except maybe if your guild is a top ranking guild in mythic raiding or PvE. Then Blizzard will probably take offense if you exclude people for social reasons because it reflects bad on the game and the community if <social group> is not allowed to compete there.

But that's very unlikely because guilds that accept people based on social criteria instead of their gaming preference tend to not get very far. Usually what happens is that people can't agree on that to do and the guild ends up doing nothing because anything causes drama.


Incorrect.

You cannot make a guild just for men, or just for straight people, or just for white people.

You can however make female, black or LGBT only guilds.



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