Mojave

Mac Technical Support
What is CASC?
CASC is the filesystem Blizzard uses for its modern games. The old system was called MoPaQ, or MPQ. They changed to CASC in order to better facilitate certain types of patches and tech into its game systems.

Unfortunately, due to how CASC patching literally "injects" patches into existing files, it can cause hundreds of changes to each file individually, and that increases the b-tree extents count dramatically. And it's those b-tree extents that's the Achilles' Heel of APFS. Once a file has that many extents attached to it, the OS has to read them all. And if they aren't contiguous on the drive's platter(s) (and in almost all cases they aren't), that means the drive's head thrashes around reading all of the file's various extents nodes in order to see what is current and what isn't.

Now add in CASC's inherent problem of non-contiguous data after patching and you get a recipe for unbearably long load screens and some pretty gnarly "pop-in" while playing the game. It gets somewhat better during the same game session due to how WoW caches the shaders, but once you quit WoW, you start from scratch all over again the next time.

This problem is markedly lessened on SSD or NVMe drives as those types of drives have only miniscule seek times to deal with and are mainly limited by the number of RAID channels on their controllers (fun fact: SSD controllers are in fact RAID controllers that access multiple NAND die simultaneously - that's where their speed comes from).

On a regular platter based hard drive, even a Fusion drive with some flash storage for cache, that thrashing of the drive heads is what causes your absurd loading times. It's a one-two punch where CASC files don't fare well over time after being patched and Apple's new APFS filesystem which is absolutely abysmal on anything that isn't flash storage based. With HFS+ some of that could be mitigated by the terminal command line entry I posted earlier in this thread. That is no longer the case with Mojave because APFS is now forced unless you take the drastic measure of getting an external drive, formatting it as HFS+ Extended (Journaled), cloning your boot drive to it, formatting the boot drive to HFS+ Extended, and cloning the cloned drive back to the internal drive. And there's no guarantee that each .1 update won't try to force the APFS conversion either after the fact.

Suffice it to say Blizzard's kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place with the performance of its games' filesystem and Apple's forcing of its new filesystem that most feel still isn't ready for primetime yet because it leans too heavily on flash drive speed and latency to overcome its cumbersome filesystem load. Make no mistake, without SSDs and NVMe drives to prop up APFS, nobody would ever use it. It's literally that slow.
Lost FPS and occasional stuttering after Mojave
Lots of spinning beachball, even after trashing the wtf, caches etc
Game is 100% UNPLAYABLE now for me after upgrading to macOS Mojave on my iMac (fusion drive). Everything is slow, loading screens are extremely slow (sometimes 1 - 2 mins), framerates are extremely low, there is a considerable amount of lag and delay on everything I click on. When entering major cities it's a long delay for the loading screen, once loaded I only see people's mounts at first and not the actual player until after a minute or so. When I cast spells I do not see any animations only sound. In epic BG's I can't even see the enemy faction. All spells, movement, everything is delayed by at least 1 minute. You cast something but don't see anything at all on your screen. I'm upset because I can no longer play WoW on my iMac. I had no issues whatsoever with macOS High Sierra nor with any other macOS version prior. Please help, extremely upset because I love playing WoW and now I can no longer do so.
I've fixed my performance issues by clean installing WoW. Copied my interface and WTF folders from my current install into the clean one and pointed battle.net to the clean install version and the game is loading much much faster and the drawing of maps/guild roster/bags/character screen etc is greatly improved.

Likely the defragmentation of a clean install fixed it up.
09/25/2018 07:25 PMPosted by Bermy
So far my experience with Mojave and WoW has been less than stellar on all 3 of my Macs.

I had no issues with 10.13 and WoW. (Windowed Fullscreen)

On both my newest Macs: A 27" 2017 iMac and 2017 15" MacBook Pro I am experiencing degraded performance.

Load times have gone from speedy to agonizingly minutes long. I have no idea what could be the cause of this.

In game Im experiencing lower frame rates than I was with High Sierra and some really odd slow drawing issues. For example, when opening bags or windows or especially the map it takes what seems too long a time to draw contents.

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I'm experiencing similar situations. Also, I've noticed that if I step away for a bit and my screen goes to sleep, the entire game hangs, causing me to Force Quit and restart.
PROBLEM FIXED :D I did a complete reinstall of WoW. Same as what Bermy posted earlier today as well.

Thanks!
The sad thing here? That fix you two came across will need to be repeated. Frequently. CASC by its very nature fragments its files when it patches. Additionally, the aforementioned b-tree extents issue with APFS on non-SSD/NVMe media will exacerbate the problem.

You should expect frequent fresh reinstalls to maintain performance.
The real fix sounds like keeping your hard drives and fusion drives formatted to HFS+...
09/30/2018 12:41 AMPosted by Lucindur
The real fix sounds like keeping your hard drives and fusion drives formatted to HFS+...


APFS, or “Apple File System,” is the default file system of Mojave. It was one of the new features introduced in macOS High Sierra. It’s optimized for solid state drives (SSDs) and other all-flash storage devices, although it will also work on mechanical and hybrid drives but is not recommended.

Now I have Mojave on my boot drive but my other internal drives are still Mac OS Extended. Since the game and all it's files are on a separate drive, it's using the file system of that drive. Only the boot drive uses APFS. All of my drives are SATA and use Mac OS extended (well the bootcamp drive is Windows).

Apple is phasing out older hardware. Mojave will still run on it, just not very well.
09/30/2018 07:23 AMPosted by Baited
APFS, or “Apple File System,” is the default file system of Mojave. It was one of the new features introduced in macOS High Sierra. It’s optimized for solid state drives (SSDs) and other all-flash storage devices, although it will also work on mechanical and hybrid drives but is not recommended.


Believe it or not, it isn't "optimized" for solid state type drives, it's simply leaning on them. This is very evident in the thrashing that goes on with files that have a lot of extents nodes attached to them. Solid state medias' inherent low latency and seek time mitigate some of that while physical platter based drives do not.

So no, it wasn't designed for solid state media, it was designed to lean on solid state media. Any competently done filesystem will run with minimal performance degredation on a traditional drive. This one does not. All SSDs do is merely hide APFS' downsides.
I'm thinking it's going to run faster copying the game folder to the 64GB HFS+ usb3 sandisk stick... that sucks. I'm leaning on buying a 128GB usb3 ssd, and using Windows to GO and just boot into windows to play :( will try the usb stick first though.
10/01/2018 07:03 PMPosted by Cimaron
I'm thinking it's going to run faster copying the game folder to the 64GB HFS+ usb3 sandisk stick... that sucks. I'm leaning on buying a 128GB usb3 ssd, and using Windows to GO and just boot into windows to play :( will try the usb stick first though.

This is what I currently do my older 2010 iMac. I have Window 10 on a SSD connected with USB adapter.

With graphics set to 3 at 1920x1080, I get acceptable frame rates.
I am pretty freaked out. MY game freezes every 5 minutes with a spinning beach ball and and i have to force quit and completely restart client.

Is there any solution to this mojave problem, or shoudl I just unistall mojave
I have a 2017 MBP and my FR dropped hard after Mojave. Any tips or suggestions?
10/02/2018 09:42 AMPosted by Axiss
I am pretty freaked out. MY game freezes every 5 minutes with a spinning beach ball and and i have to force quit and completely restart client.

Is there any solution to this mojave problem, or shoudl I just unistall mojave

Based on what Tia described, I would say anyone with a Fusion drive should switch back to High Sierra. At least until a fix is available.
Updated Mojave and now game won't launch.

Process: World of Warcraft [3731]
Path: /Applications/World of Warcraft/World of Warcraft.app/Contents/MacOS/World of Warcraft
Identifier: com.blizzard.worldofwarcraft
Version: 8.0.1 (8.0.1.27980)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: ??? [1]
Responsible: World of Warcraft [3731]
User ID: 501

Date/Time: 2018-10-02 19:33:53.057 -0500
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.14.1 (18B50c)
Report Version: 12
Bridge OS Version: 3.0 (14Y667)
Anonymous UUID: 403AD5B2-5445-1383-7B27-11CF22266FC0

Time Awake Since Boot: 2600 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (SIGILL)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Signal: Illegal instruction: 4
Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0x4
Terminating Process: exc handler [3731]

Application Specific Information:
/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenCL.framework/Versions/A/OpenCL

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 com.blizzard.worldofwarcraft 0x0000000100d49430 operator new(unsigned long) + 0
1 com.apple.opencl 0x00007fff4bb8d4f0 0x7fff4bb82000 + 46320
2 com.apple.opencl 0x00007fff4bb92c4e 0x7fff4bb82000 + 68686
3 dyld 0x000000010d7b4cc8 ImageLoaderMachO::doModInitFunctions(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 518
4 dyld 0x000000010d7b4ec6 ImageLoaderMachO::doInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&) + 40
5 dyld 0x000000010d7b00da ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, char const*, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&, ImageLoader::UninitedUpwards&) + 358
6 dyld 0x000000010d7b006d ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, char const*, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&, ImageLoader::UninitedUpwards&) + 249
7 dyld 0x000000010d7b006d ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, char const*, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&, ImageLoader::UninitedUpwards&) + 249
8 dyld 0x000000010d7b006d ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, char const*, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&, ImageLoader::UninitedUpwards&) + 249
9 dyld 0x000000010d7b006d ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, char const*, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&, ImageLoader::UninitedUpwards&) + 249
10 dyld 0x000000010d7b006d ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, char const*, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&, ImageLoader::UninitedUpwards&) + 249
11 dyld 0x000000010d7b006d ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, char const*, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&, ImageLoader::UninitedUpwards&) + 249
12 dyld 0x000000010d7b006d ImageLoader::recursiveInitialization(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, char const*, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&, ImageLoader::UninitedUpwards&) + 249
13 dyld 0x000000010d7af254 ImageLoader::processInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, unsigned int, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&, ImageLoader::UninitedUpwards&) + 134
14 dyld 0x000000010d7af2e8 ImageLoader::runInitializers(ImageLoader::LinkContext const&, ImageLoader::InitializerTimingList&) + 74
15 dyld 0x000000010d79e774 dyld::initializeMainExecutable() + 199
16 dyld 0x000000010d7a378f dyld::_main(macho_header const*, unsigned long, int, char const**, char const**, char const**, unsigned long*) + 6237
17 dyld 0x000000010d79d4f6 dyldbootstrap::start(macho_header const*, int, char const**, long, macho_header const*, unsigned long*) + 1154
18 dyld 0x000000010d79d036 _dyld_start + 54

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x00007fffa2297890 rbx: 0x0000000000000000 rcx: 0x000000000000001c rdx: 0x00007fff4bbcd52c
rdi: 0x0000000000000008 rsi: 0x00007fff4bbcd528 rbp: 0x00007ffeefbfc570 rsp: 0x00007ffeefbfc528
r8: 0x000000010d81e9e0 r9: 0x0000000000000000 r10: 0x0000000000000000 r11: 0x0000000000000000
r12: 0x00007fff9c734d18 r13: 0x0000000000000004 r14: 0x00007fff4bbcd52c r15: 0x00007fff4bbcd528
rip: 0x0000000100d49430 rfl: 0x0000000000010206 cr2: 0x0000000102601000

Logical CPU: 0
Error Code: 0x00000000
Trap Number: 6

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I passed that on as a possible 10.14.1 specific crash

any particular reason you are using a beta version of OS?
10/02/2018 12:13 PMPosted by Glitternipz
I have a 2017 MBP and my FR dropped hard after Mojave. Any tips or suggestions?

Double check time machine and spot light aren't running. 10.14 shouldn't have any notable change in fps one way or the other. Most of changes to metal are unrelated to what WoW uses. But you could see degraded performance on count that cpu is still busy with post update tasks like updating spotlight index or updating your TM backups.
MacOS Mojave 10.14.1 Beta (18B50c) bricks WoW. Confirmed.

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