More Sub Nerfs?

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Rogue

(Assassination, Subtlety) Sharpened Blades: damage reduced by 30% (unchanged in PvP). The benefit of having multiple copies of this trait active is reduced.
(Assassination) Poisoned Wire: Critical Strike increased by 50%.
(Outlaw) Brigand's Blitz: Haste increased by 50%.
(Subtlety) Blade in the Shadows: damage reduced by 25%.
(Subtlety) The First Dance: Now grants 2 stacks of the Critical Strike bonus when activated. Critical Strike bonus reduced by 25%.
An absolute disgusting fkn joke.

I don't think they have a clue what they're even doing at this point.

#gutmut
#buffsub
shadow dance should be a 1 min cd
misstype
09/24/2018 07:54 PMPosted by Iratur
shadow dance should be a 1 min cd

i just wanna play sub
I just wish they would gut rogues so I wouldn't have to see them for a while tbh.
09/24/2018 09:02 PMPosted by Cantpopthis
I just wish they would gut rogues so I wouldn't have to see them for a while tbh.


I agree 100%. Tired of seeing nothing but rogues since prepatch.
Tiered of seeing your post since prepatch
09/24/2018 09:17 PMPosted by Thesandman
Tiered of seeing your post since prepatch


Sick burn dude
BabyRage one of my 3 damage specs isn't top tier BabyRage
Gutting isn't the answer, balancing is. Instead of addressing trait stacking, they simply clobber various classes, then swing by with trait tuning.

This dev team seems to make a lot of changes that don't resonate well with the playerbase.
09/24/2018 09:52 PMPosted by Floes
Gutting isn't the answer, balancing is. Instead of addressing trait stacking, they simply clobber various classes, then swing by with trait tuning.

This dev team seems to make a lot of changes that don't resonate well with the playerbase.


People look for gutting because that's what they've been doing to classes and specs. Why gut something else, balance others and leave others overpowered as hell?
while sub is weak in pvp, it isnt weak in pve

and these changes are because of pve
09/24/2018 07:47 PMPosted by Bronco
An absolute disgusting fkn joke.

I don't think they have a clue what they're even doing at this point.

#gutmut
#buffsub


Welcome to the Shaman & Death Knight club Rogue friends!

*Brings over a platter of 6 large beers with the hash tag #ustoo*
no links?? someone drop the link to see these
09/24/2018 07:54 PMPosted by Iratur
shadow dance should be a 1 min cd
... Shadow dance IS a 1 min cd. It just has 2 charges.
09/24/2018 11:49 PMPosted by Fox
09/24/2018 07:54 PMPosted by Iratur
shadow dance should be a 1 min cd
... Shadow dance IS a 1 min cd. It just has 2 charges.


Nah. it has cdr. I think he meant it needs to be classic 1 minute cd shadowdance with no cdr.

basically bring back wotlk s7 -> WoD subtlety.

btw !@#$ wod sub. dfa was braindead.
https://www.wowhead.com/bluetracker?topic=17623983876
Bro you guys cant do math... You want to stack the !@#$ out of first dance. I have a piece that has it at 370 and the crit rating it gives me right now I calculated to 30.77% on one piece. With two charges the first 2 shadowstrikes are guaranteed crits. This doesn't fix the problem but it does make it a lot better. I'm thinking bis might two blade in the shadows and one of first dance.

edit: Tested on horde side and it feels alot better. Dont like the fact i have to change my rotation but i can say im doing some type of damage in dance
Pretty sure, rogue as kill target is an easy win 8/10 times

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