<PTR Spoilers> - Saurfang and the Dark Rangers

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10/01/2018 10:18 AMPosted by Averyx
It's sad how nowadays horde players are so eager to bow to an elf and be talked down by her human boyfriend while her human kingdom is the main force of the horde.
And stealing night elves to make new, improved Dark Rangers with. If I didn't know any better the Horde is incredibly jealous of the Alliance. Would explain all that projection with the high elf debate.
10/01/2018 10:04 AMPosted by Fortuna
Only if those of us loyal to the true Horde have the option to kill banshee sympathizers on sight. We must purge our ranks of those who would succumb to dishonor..

Considering blood elves would be wiped out if it weren't for Sylvanas, I would expect them to be on her side. When faced with cleaning up the scourge, it was Sylvanas that took the initiative to send help which paved the way for them joining the horde.
10/01/2018 10:18 AMPosted by Averyx
It's sad how nowadays horde players are so eager to bow to an elf and be talked down by her human boyfriend while her human kingdom is the main force of the horde.


How is it unexpected though?

Most Horde players just want to be a Human with pointy ears in pretty dresses.

See: Blood Elf population
10/01/2018 10:55 AMPosted by Myrothan
10/01/2018 10:29 AMPosted by Karglug
Goblins - Saurfang paid more
Undead - LK took control again.

Easily done. Easier than Tauren being ok with burning the tree


Why would a Tauren give 2 !@#$s about that tree?


Regular Tauren care less about the tree and more about the loss of innocent life.

Tauren druids would take great umbrage with the loss of the tree. It's why Sylvannas had no qualms allowing the most powerful druid in the Horde go to the other side of the continent to investigate how to heal the wound in Silithus. Runetotem would've flipped his proverbial @$!#
How to Ruin Another Part of Warcraft: A story by Blizzard Entertainment.
Does anyone else read the OPs posts in this thread with the Goblin voice in thier head?
10/01/2018 11:01 AMPosted by Kolyx
Tauren druids would take great umbrage with the loss of the tree. It's why Sylvannas had no qualms allowing the most powerful druid in the Horde go to the other side of the continent to investigate how to heal the wound in Silithus. Runetotem would've flipped his proverbial @$!#


Runetotem is literally besties with Malfurion. Of course he'd be upset with the plan. Regular Tauren druids? Meh. The tree isn't even 20 years old, and was literally made from arrogance and blessed to prevent further corruption. There was nothing natural or good about that tree.

As for that first part, the Tauren aren't wimps my dude. How do you think they got the tribe name "Bloodhoof"?
Saurfang has my axe. Lok'tar Ogar.
Empathy isn't weakness; Wtf.

Tauren, especially Tauren druids, havr a close bond with thr Night Elves. They'd be more upset than you think.
10/01/2018 11:09 AMPosted by Kolyx
Empathy isn't weakness; Wtf.

Tauren, especially Tauren druids, havr a close bond with thr Night Elves. They'd be more upset than you think.


So close the Night Elves almost let the Tauren go extinct from the centaurs not ten years ago, right?
10/01/2018 11:11 AMPosted by Myrothan
10/01/2018 11:09 AMPosted by Kolyx
Empathy isn't weakness; Wtf.

Tauren, especially Tauren druids, havr a close bond with thr Night Elves. They'd be more upset than you think.


So close the Night Elves almost let the Tauren go extinct from the centaurs not ten years ago, right?

They honestly should be pushing this more than they do, or at the very least saying, "Why would we join the Alliance when the Night Elves did nothing while the Centaur nearly wiped us out?"
We could probably just wall ourselves up and watch the Horde kill each other off.

Their entire story is to back-stab and kill of any leading character that has even an ounce of honor. Kinda raises the old question of which side is good and which is bad. I was always of the opinion that is was entirely up to perspective. However, its obvious now that the Horde is currently under the leadership of one who wants to see the world burn more than most of the end game villains that we've defeated every xpac.

I'm rooting for Saurfang. The world would be a better place, and I'd probably play my Orc more.

(For the record, I'm an undead priest main on horde)
10/01/2018 11:12 AMPosted by Gorronor
They honestly should be pushing this more than they do, or at the very least saying, "Why would we join the Alliance when the Night Elves did nothing while the Centaur nearly wiped us out?"


Because this argument doesn't exist in-universe. The Tauren don't want to join the Alliance any more than the orcs or trolls. It's just a weird fan misconception that's gotten out of hand with Baines punk !@# on the throne.
10/01/2018 11:11 AMPosted by Myrothan
So close the Night Elves almost let the Tauren go extinct from the centaurs not ten years ago, right?


10/01/2018 11:12 AMPosted by Gorronor
They honestly should be pushing this more than they do, or at the very least saying, "Why would we join the Alliance when the Night Elves did nothing while the Centaur nearly wiped us out?"


You two realize at that point Night Elves and tauren were strangers, right? Tauren didn't even know what was in the forests. It's later that their friendship formed and they supposedly shared a big bond, after all night elves saved them more than once. Tauren however always betray them. Humans also saved tauren BTW.
Blizzard writers are getting dumber and dumber and dumber.
10/01/2018 10:57 AMPosted by Kolyx
Goblins aren't loyal to Sylvannas, or even Gallywix. They're loyal to the side who can get them the most money or, barring that, won't get them killed.

They may side with Sylvannas for the later in the hopes of not falling victim to the blight.

Goblins PCs though should show no loyalty to Gallywix since he legit tries to have you murdered.

Goblins are all about spreading the Blight along side the Forsaken. Goblins are the only NPC other than Forsaken that are geared up spreading Blight.

Goblins like the Horde because the Horde doesn't care about safety regulations. Goblins can make and test all kinds of weapons and contraptions that may be seen as inhumane.

Gallywix gets paid and we get paid, we don't have to like each other. Goblins are completely fine with doing things that might get them killed as long as there's hazard pay.
10/01/2018 11:18 AMPosted by Monnserrat
You two realize at that point Night Elves and tauren were strangers, right? Tauren didn't even know what was in the forests. It's later that their friendship formed and they supposedly shared a big bond, after all night elves saved them more than once. Tauren however always betray them. Humans also saved tauren BTW.


No !@#$. That's the point. The Mulgore Tauren as we know them and the Night Elves never been close. Hell, Hamuul has only been practicing druidism since the end of the third war like 11-12 years ago. Meanwhile the orcs saved them from exitinction and were slaughtered by the Night Elves for lumbering. Who do you think they're gunna side with? Their hobbyist friends or their saviors?
10/01/2018 11:18 AMPosted by Monnserrat
10/01/2018 11:11 AMPosted by Myrothan
So close the Night Elves almost let the Tauren go extinct from the centaurs not ten years ago, right?


10/01/2018 11:12 AMPosted by Gorronor
They honestly should be pushing this more than they do, or at the very least saying, "Why would we join the Alliance when the Night Elves did nothing while the Centaur nearly wiped us out?"


You two realize at that point Night Elves and tauren were strangers, right? Tauren didn't even know what was in the forests. It's later that their friendship formed and they supposedly shared a big bond, after all night elves saved them more than once. Tauren however always betray them. Humans also saved tauren BTW.


What? The Tauren fought Beside the Night Elves in the War of the Ancients....
10/01/2018 11:18 AMPosted by Monnserrat
10/01/2018 11:11 AMPosted by Myrothan
So close the Night Elves almost let the Tauren go extinct from the centaurs not ten years ago, right?


10/01/2018 11:12 AMPosted by Gorronor
They honestly should be pushing this more than they do, or at the very least saying, "Why would we join the Alliance when the Night Elves did nothing while the Centaur nearly wiped us out?"


You two realize at that point Night Elves and tauren were strangers, right? Tauren didn't even know what was in the forests. It's later that their friendship formed and they supposedly shared a big bond, after all night elves saved them more than once. Tauren however always betray them. Humans also saved tauren BTW.


Tauren were well aware of the Night Elves because they fought together in the War of the Ancients, they just didn't interact with them much because the Night Elves did their own thing in the forests and kept their distance from the Tauren. The bond they share is only one of druidic ability. The Night Elves were shocked when Cenarius taught the Tauren how to be druids but the Tauren took to it well and that's the only bond that they shared before fighting together in the Third War. There is no big bond or anything that even remotely suggests that the Tauren "betrayed" the Night Elves outside of maybe in the druid circles and the Cenarion Circle.

Also when did the Humans save the Tauren?
10/01/2018 10:15 AMPosted by Geofferson
10/01/2018 10:06 AMPosted by Sumise
As an exclusively non goblin/forasken player, I find it ridiculous to obey a rabid death waging banshee queen in the name of the horde.

The Loa of the Darkspear Trolls is Bwomsamdi.

You play a Troll Death Knight and you worship the Loa of Death... yeah... your character isn't siding with Saurfang.


"Why would me want da Banshee Queen in charge? Nononono. Sure, I be all for war and death, but dat Sylvanas... she be tippin' da scales too far.

Balance be important! Besides, dat one got a nasty habit of keepin' what she kills. No, ya warchief be no friend to ol' Bwonsamdi."

The Loa of Death doesn't like Sylvanas, or the undead it seems.

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