Suckfangs transformation

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Saurfang, how to go from WoWs Chuck Norris equivalent to a parasitic traitor in 60 seconds flat. Come on Saurfang, we respected you man..
11/03/2018 01:47 AMPosted by Alamarius
Saurfang, how to go from WoWs Chuck Norris equivalent to a parasitic traitor in 60 seconds flat. Come on Saurfang, we respected you man..


He doesn't want respect from a floozy elf.
11/03/2018 01:47 AMPosted by Alamarius
Saurfang, how to go from WoWs Chuck Norris equivalent to a parasitic traitor in 60 seconds flat. Come on Saurfang, we respected you man..


If Sylvanas came to a sudden stop, your head would go halfway up her backside.

You know nothing of honor......and your hair looks like crap.
The Horde: you either die to a trash mob or live long enough for Blizz to completely destroy everything that made you awesome.
I still find it incredibly entertaining how the general Horde fanbase turned on him the moment he decided he'd had enough of Sylvanas.

The screeching was louder than her banshee wail.

Also, stop sticking random adjectives in there because you think they sound insulting. Saurfang has never been a parasite. If you want an example of a parasite, it would be someone that uses the Horde to their own ends with no care for the Horde's health beyond how it is required to serve said ends.

Like Sylvanas. She's just a parasite in a big chair.

Tell me, when she seized your throne of hides and bones, was your allegiance forced? No... I'd wager you surrendered it willingly... or were convinced you did.
11/03/2018 01:47 AMPosted by Alamarius
Saurfang, how to go from WoWs Chuck Norris equivalent to a parasitic traitor in 60 seconds flat. Come on Saurfang, we respected you man..

Saurfang is the one trying to uphold the old values of the horde. You and the rest of your ilk who lick Sylvanas's boots are the problem.
11/03/2018 01:52 AMPosted by Lokra
I still find it incredibly entertaining how the general Horde fanbase turned on him the moment he decided he'd had enough of Sylvanas.

The screeching was louder than her banshee wail.

Also, stop sticking random adjectives in there because you think they sound insulting. Saurfang has never been a parasite. If you want an example of a parasite, it would be someone that uses the Horde to their own ends with no care for the Horde's health beyond how it is required to serve said ends.

Like Sylvanas. She's just a parasite in a big chair.

[quote]Tell me, when she seized your throne of hides and bones, was your allegiance forced? No... I'd wager you surrendered it willingly... or were convinced you did.
He spent what, weeks, months, living in a jail cell eating the scraps Anduin threw him, so he could avoid doing his duty and serve the horde. Sounds pretty parasitic.
11/03/2018 01:54 AMPosted by Magnarok
11/03/2018 01:47 AMPosted by Alamarius
Saurfang, how to go from WoWs Chuck Norris equivalent to a parasitic traitor in 60 seconds flat. Come on Saurfang, we respected you man..

Saurfang is the one trying to uphold the old values of the horde. You and the rest of your ilk who lick Sylvanas's boots are the problem.
Upholding the old values of the horde by committing treason and becoming the human kings new replacement dog, since Genn got too old?
11/03/2018 01:55 AMPosted by Alamarius
He spent what, weeks, months, living in a jail cell eating the scraps Anduin threw him, so he could avoid doing his duty and serve the horde. Sounds pretty parasitic.
He didn't make the choice to be a prisoner of war. He fought in a battle to the death (LOK'TAR OGAR and all), but his enemy would not grant it, and instead healed and captured him. You act like it was his plan to get tossed in a cell.
11/03/2018 01:56 AMPosted by Alamarius
Upholding the old values of the horde by committing treason and becoming the human kings new replacement dog, since Genn got too old?
To clarify, he has treasonous intent. He never committed treason.

Hell, the most treasonous thing he did was NOT attack Sylvanas, because Horde values indicate that if you disagree with your leader, you fight them for the position in mak'gora. Trying to get someone else to depose them would be seen as cowardly, except that Saurfang himself does not want to rule.
Is he a traitor though? He holds the ideals of the Horde that banded together to survive and live honorably, the ideals that shaped and created the Horde (Thralls Horde). We've seen the decay (figuratively and literally lol) of those ideals with Sylvanas leading the Horde.

Saurfang isn't a traitor to the Horde, he's a traitor to Sylvanas.
11/03/2018 01:52 AMPosted by Lorash
The Horde: you either die to a trash mob or live long enough for Blizz to completely destroy everything that made you awesome.

I'd like to think there was something that made Saurfang awesome other than kowtowing to tyrants and cleaving people in half.

Something starting with an H, maybe, on the tip of my tongue.

11/03/2018 01:56 AMPosted by Alamarius
Upholding the old values of the horde by committing treason and becoming the human kings new replacement dog, since Genn got too old?

A) You have no idea what terms, if any, they agreed on. If Saurfang convinced Anduin to sign a peace treaty in exchange for Sylvanas's head, I'd call that a win for the Horde. Heck, he might've even gotten concessions on top.

B) Defying a poisonous tyrant is not treason. Rather, it is the truest expression of patriotism: loyalty not to the throne, but to the living spirit of the people. The true Horde.
11/03/2018 02:04 AMPosted by Rought
Saurfang isn't a traitor to the Horde, he's a traitor to Sylvanas.
The problem is that people see that as the same thing. "She's the Warchief! No dissent allowed!"

"Yeah but what about when we overthrew Garr--"

"That was different because he isn't my edgy, pretty, zombie elf."
11/03/2018 01:47 AMPosted by Alamarius
Saurfang, how to go from WoWs Chuck Norris equivalent to a parasitic traitor in 60 seconds flat. Come on Saurfang, we respected you man..


Yea...for a guy with 'honor' the betrayal seems kind of weird doesn't it? I hope he goes out in glory and is written out of the story now.
Nothing wrong with Saurfang.

Did you ever do ICC?
I find it incredibly amusing just how many people have turned on Saurfang these days . . . I recall a time where people DEMANDED he became the new warchief over Vol'jin (calling blizzard insane for making a troll leader of the horde might I add) and now it seems that most folk (least on these forums) have turned their backs on the old warrior because he refuses to bow to your precious, foul smelling, rotting undead waifu.
11/03/2018 01:56 AMPosted by Alamarius
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Saurfang is the one trying to uphold the old values of the horde. You and the rest of your ilk who lick Sylvanas's boots are the problem.
Upholding the old values of the horde by committing treason and becoming the human kings new replacement dog, since Genn got too old?

When did he commit treason? When he faced the alliance forces alone to buy time for the others to escape? He made no promises to Anduin. No deals. If Anduin wants him out there doing his thing, that's his call. But if/when Saurfang openly opposes and challenges Sylvanas it will be because she deserves it. She follows in the footsteps of Arthas now and she is dragging the horde along for the ride.
Like it or not Sylvanas is fighting for the horde, Saurfang has costed the lives of many horde members, when he spared Malfurion, that alone will caused hundreds if not thousands of horde members to be killed by him. Saurfangs "honor" isnt doing anything except getting his former comrades killed and causing a civil war in a horde that needs unity.
11/03/2018 02:13 AMPosted by Alamarius
Like it or not Sylvanas is fighting for the horde, Saurfang has costed the lives of many horde members, when he spared Malfurion, that alone will caused hundreds if not thousands of horde members to be killed by him. Saurfangs "honor" isnt doing anything except getting his former comrades killed and causing a civil war in a horde that needs unity.


oh she's fighting for the horde alright . . . fighting to preserve it as her new meatshield against oblivion. Face it, your nothing to her but a potential new undead AT BEST, and an "arrow in her quiver" at worst
If you cannot see that Saurfang is remaining consistent to his established values, and that it is Sylvanas who has gone way over the line, I don't know what to tell you, except that you have failed to understand the story being told.
11/03/2018 02:20 AMPosted by Tymberlea
If you cannot see that Saurfang is remaining consistent to his established values, and that it is Sylvanas who has gone way over the line, I don't know what to tell you, except that you have failed to understand the story being told.
I have always understood Saurfangs "values", I also understand that they're garbage if they are costing the horde thousands of lives due to his "honorable" poor choices.

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