115k in 1.4 seconds. Pal azerite stacking

Arenas
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https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/9wo4uq/3v2_then_this_happened_to_my_hunter/
Feels bad. I miss Legion Ret. Everyone hated the cleave too though.
Inb4 the rets come and defend
It's okay to the extent that in 3s, your trinket = ret wings. But what I don't understand is their damage during mini-wings. How does that work exactly? Can they do the SAME damage during mini-wings?
For the love of God, disable this trash in PvP already. It's like every week we see something else being completely busted from stacking.

Wait till 8.1 hits and we have new traits to deal with.
rets need high damage

its not like they have plate armor, self heals, BoP, Divine Shield, a 6 second stun, etc....

oh wait.

anyways, rogue does 10 times as much damage, rogue is what needs nerf, not paladin.
ACTUALLY RET IS FINE

have you ever seen a ret between wings???? LMAO GL WERE ONE OF THE ONLY BALANCED CLASSES RN JUST KITE

all rets and moonkins
On damage total over x amount of time Ret damage is mediocre. No cleave. Some balance would be nice between wings/no wings.
11/13/2018 08:43 AMPosted by Xizlea
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If your unable to see Dark Archangel and Wings go up at the same time and not immediately trinket / blink away, you probably have more issues to work on other then dying to a Ret.

For real though, even stacking x3 Wings Mastery traits Ret won’t hit above 40-45k without Dark Archangel or Skyfury Totem. This would also assume we get lucky and have both attacks Crit (most rets average about 12-16% chance to crit since we are stacking haste & vers for PvP).
"For real though, me one shotting is only situational. Like, it's a set up. So it's fair. The shaman has to like, hit a totem. Or we need a buff from a priest"

This sounds REALLY familiar.

Also the best part about this post is Wake of Ashes builds 5 holy power, so there's more damage that's unspent because the guy freaking died.
can we just delete azerite traits already
they're garbage less fun versions of artifact weapons
but no at the end of BFA ion will just say how they didn't work out as planned and in the same breath of putrid air announce the new candle on a stick garbage system that replaced good, base class design after WOD.
sigh.
11/13/2018 09:21 AMPosted by Rethumtv
11/13/2018 08:43 AMPosted by Xizlea
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https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/9wo4uq/3v2_then_this_happened_to_my_hunter/


If your unable to see Dark Archangel and Wings go up at the same time and not immediately trinket / blink away, you probably have more issues to work on other then dying to a Ret.

For real though, even stacking x3 Wings Mastery traits Ret won’t hit above 40-45k without Dark Archangel or Skyfury Totem. This would also assume we get lucky and have both attacks Crit (most rets average about 12-16% chance to crit since we are stacking haste & vers for PvP).


11/13/2018 08:49 AMPosted by Feyan
Inb4 the rets come and defend
11/13/2018 09:04 AMPosted by Radiance
ACTUALLY RET IS FINE

have you ever seen a ret between wings???? LMAO GL WERE ONE OF THE ONLY BALANCED CLASSES RN JUST KITE

all rets and moonkins

Good thing there is this thing in arenas called dampening.
worst is when they just pillar until they can do this zzzz
It's fine because Mages kite them. You know, unlike every other melee that has no problem with them <insert eye roll>.
by now everyone knows their only kill windows are during wings and people with half a brain will just stun or cc them and kite for a couple seconds... after that they hit like a lvl110. Maybe you were too busy tunneling and didnt pay attention?
11/13/2018 09:50 AMPosted by Feyan
11/13/2018 09:21 AMPosted by Rethumtv
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If your unable to see Dark Archangel and Wings go up at the same time and not immediately trinket / blink away, you probably have more issues to work on other then dying to a Ret.

For real though, even stacking x3 Wings Mastery traits Ret won’t hit above 40-45k without Dark Archangel or Skyfury Totem. This would also assume we get lucky and have both attacks Crit (most rets average about 12-16% chance to crit since we are stacking haste & vers for PvP).


11/13/2018 08:49 AMPosted by Feyan
Inb4 the rets come and defend


I could sense this was coming :P
114k in 1.4 sec? classic ret, nothing to see here folks

11/13/2018 09:21 AMPosted by Rethumtv
11/13/2018 08:43 AMPosted by Xizlea
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https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/9wo4uq/3v2_then_this_happened_to_my_hunter/


If your unable to see Dark Archangel and Wings go up at the same time and not immediately trinket / blink away, you probably have more issues to work on other then dying to a Ret.

For real though, even stacking x3 Wings Mastery traits Ret won’t hit above 40-45k without Dark Archangel or Skyfury Totem. This would also assume we get lucky and have both attacks Crit (most rets average about 12-16% chance to crit since we are stacking haste & vers for PvP).


LOL classic ret, guess you guys just "get lucky" 99% of the time YOU ARE NOT A TRUE KUL TIRAN
ah, i was wondering. the other day i saw that my guys couldnt stop a repentance so i sacced my dps (he was 50%) to break the repent and deny the kill setup. then i hit shock on my dps to heal, and all of a sudden i had to divine shield because my health had gone from roughly 96% to about 16% because of my sac. i was so confused but this makes sense.
11/13/2018 08:51 AMPosted by Jao
It's okay to the extent that in 3s, your trinket = ret wings. But what I don't understand is their damage during mini-wings. How does that work exactly? Can they do the SAME damage during mini-wings?

Virtually, yes.
It will proc our azerite trait though we generally pop an on use trinket with main wings which may not be accessible during mini wings.

Ret’s damage during wings is broken, I’ve seen 60+ k execution sentences without skyfury or dark archangel. And i only have 2 of the traits, waiting for the helm.

Though as everyone is saying, our damage outside of wings is absolute trash - which is why I opt to play holy and play ret in bg’s for laughs.

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