New forums = George Orwell's 1984?

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This is al for the benefit of Blizzard, who is very tired of reading the REAL complaints and suggestions we have. so they take a page from commie china, that has 'social ratings'; this governs where you can go, who your friends are and what kind of life you will have.

How will we know what our 'ratings' are? And will they be posted so all can see?
What moderation will there be, besides the usual 'let the trolls run amok and then close the thread.'? If its anything like Overwatch forums then 'draconian' is too soft a word?
11/12/2018 08:14 AMPosted by Ohgodmyeyes
11/12/2018 08:10 AMPosted by Hayhey
SO what if the supply chain is totally controlled by one side, IE, they are all based in one nameless state with the same belief system and enjoy being the thought police?

We are once again back at start your own bakery to know if the bread is good. The new system wont be good.

Wow, what? Way to drop the analogy on its backside.

No, no we're not back to knowing if the bread is good. It is and always has been a case of, "If you don't like the bread, bake your own and you can make it however you like."


Again I say what if the thought police control the supply chain? You cant get any ingredients for bread. You seriously are blind. Willfully blind to what tech giants are doing to those with differing beliefs.
11/12/2018 01:27 PMPosted by Hayhey
Again I say what if the thought police control the supply chain? You cant get any ingredients for bread. You seriously are blind. Willfully blind to what tech giants are doing to those with differing beliefs.

Which was recently proven with Gab (something I didn't even know existed until power hungry tech giants had it nuked). The fact that companies have the power to pull strings and threaten the monetary funders and system maintainers for a rival company, and destroy it by claiming that they were "responsible" for a single Neo-!@#$ genetic mistake going on a killing spree of innocent Jews, is scary.

The fact that Blizzard is also implementing a social credit system akin to China, is also disturbing. You get special goodies for being a good little boot licker, and you get the Revolutionary Guard sicked on you if you speak ill of Big Brother.
11/12/2018 01:27 PMPosted by Hayhey
Again I say what if the thought police control the supply chain? You cant get any ingredients for bread.

Tell that to Steam's Early Access devs, I guess -- because it seems like plenty of people are still making their own 'bread' with varying levels of success.
11/12/2018 01:37 PMPosted by Ohgodmyeyes
11/12/2018 01:27 PMPosted by Hayhey
Again I say what if the thought police control the supply chain? You cant get any ingredients for bread.

Tell that to Steam's Early Access devs, I guess -- because it seems like plenty of people are still making their own 'bread' with varying levels of success.


>Enters conversation about A vs B, "but people can still do C so it's ok!"

Are you ok?
11/12/2018 01:41 PMPosted by Nevergiveup
>Enters conversation about A vs B, "but people can still do C so it's ok!"

Are you ok?

Did you skip the earlier parts of the conversation? We were discussing creating a game forum for one's own games and moderating it as one sees fit. Social media doesn't figure in, which is why the analogy fell flat in the first place.
11/12/2018 12:50 PMPosted by Solarwynds
FYI I am a survivor of actual abuse. Many kinds.What some people consider horrible I would have considered a good day when I was younger.


It is a grave mistake to think that we have some kind of expertise that no one else in the forums has because of our past experiences. I would be stunned to find out that you and i are the only ones with abusive people in our backgrounds.


i am responding only for clarification. My original comment was simply that I know I am broken and sometimes I lack the ability to see the way others do, nothing more, nothing less. I have always had empathy, but as I get older, I have had more difficulty "appearing" normal and understanding others.

My life has taught me I tend to bring in others as broken as I am, so I know there are a lot more people than me that are broken and others who had it much worse.

I dont think I have a special viewpoint.
I dont want special victim status.

My comment was only about me and my sometimes inability to understand.
11/11/2018 11:11 PMPosted by Decoy
Removing the dislike button is a bad call. I should be able to silently disagree with your (most likely) terrible opinion or statement without backing it up with my own.
I agree. The like and the dislike just need to be tracked separately.

When it was on this forum, a dislike would counter a like. As such, you'd end up with two very different kinds of posts that would have similar ratings:
  • Posts of little import that received very little community engagement
  • Polarizing posts that received a great deal of community engagement in the form of both likes and dislikes


Because of this, it would be very difficult to tell the difference between a low-interest topic and a highly polarizing topic.

If it showed something along the lines of "21 likes, 24 dislikes" instead of the net result "3 dislikes", it would be immediately apparent to a reader how polarizing the post is perceived by the community.
11/11/2018 11:43 PMPosted by Viscaro
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I don't believe you.gif.

I feel as though there is more to the story. Else you'd be getting another 1 week (or more) ban right now.


It's a slightly separate issue, but they're not entirely unrelated.

I was silenced for 24 hours for saying in Trade to a discussion about transphobia that a lot of transphobia is instigated by trans people (and provided links to support). I stated this respectfully - I am a gay man IRL so I believe in sensitivity, respect and acceptance - yet I was slapped with a silence.

I can definitely see such things occurring here.

YES, trolling IS an issue. But when you begin to censor free thought, that's a problem in my book. I know this is only a game at the end of the day, but I don't wanna be in an environment that is stifling to me - especially when I have been civil, respectful and polite.


Blizzard GM's as a group are grade-A, out-of-control, full-Orwell PC thoughtcops.

They should just ban any and all political expression, rather than supressing expression of viewpoints that the left finds offensive - which is to say any criticism of the left or expression of viewpoints to the right of Chomsky
11/12/2018 02:35 PMPosted by Drkenypowers
Blizzard GM's as a group are grade-A, out-of-control, full-Orwell PC thoughtcops.

They should just ban any and all political expression, rather than supressing expression of viewpoints that the left finds offensive - which is to say any criticism of the left or expression of viewpoints to the right of Chomsky

lol I love how the "I'm a rebel freedom fighter" hype is amping up in this thread.

Blizzard is basically jack-booted thugs coming to stop on lady liberty's face!!!
Remember citizens we've always been at war with Eastasia and you've always loved mobile games.
they did a revamp of the heroes of the storm forums and it lead to examples of censorship
11/12/2018 02:38 PMPosted by Snowfox
11/12/2018 02:35 PMPosted by Drkenypowers
Blizzard GM's as a group are grade-A, out-of-control, full-Orwell PC thoughtcops.

They should just ban any and all political expression, rather than supressing expression of viewpoints that the left finds offensive - which is to say any criticism of the left or expression of viewpoints to the right of Chomsky

lol I love how the "I'm a rebel freedom fighter" hype is amping up in this thread.

Blizzard is basically jack-booted thugs coming to stop on lady liberty's face!!!


If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.
11/12/2018 10:22 AMPosted by Awkward
11/12/2018 10:04 AMPosted by Jimrockford
I'm glad they are focusing on such important things like this instead of providing engaging game play and fixing that steaming smelly turd called BFA.


I mean they're basically C+P'ing the Overwatch forums.

But I mean yeah, lets get the dude whose job it is to handle the technical aspects of the forum to handle balance instead. His skillset works perfectly for that!

11/12/2018 10:21 AMPosted by Gunny
Sounds like a popularity contest, with Blizz giving advantages to those who stroke the Blizz often and well.


The trust system is based purely off how often you visit the forums and how much you engage.

What opinion you hold is completely irrelevant.

11/12/2018 10:13 AMPosted by Joyeuse
But what happens when some people give me tons of likes and some people report everything I say? Will the new forums tell people “stay away from that High Elf, they’re always right!” or something?


Your likes will show up on a little forum profile like this:

http://puu.sh/C0DS6/11ec3f61e8.jpg

Your reports if they aren't valid will be ignored and nothing will happen to you, as the system still currently works.


Hnmmm someone is stingy with his hearts. ;)
11/12/2018 12:50 PMPosted by Solarwynds
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It is a grave mistake to think that we have some kind of expertise that no one else in the forums has because of our past experiences. I would be stunned to find out that you and i are the only ones with abusive people in our backgrounds.


i am responding only for clarification. My original comment was simply that I know I am broken and sometimes I lack the ability to see the way others do, nothing more, nothing less. I have always had empathy, but as I get older, I have had more difficulty "appearing" normal and understanding others.

My life has taught me I tend to bring in others as broken as I am, so I know there are a lot more people than me that are broken and others who had it much worse.

I dont think I have a special viewpoint.
I dont want special victim status.

My comment was only about me and my sometimes inability to understand.
Ok. I get what you are saying. Trust me on that. I truly am sorry for what you experienced. Sorry I misjudged and hope that as you age you also find some strength in the brokeness (seems like you have). Keep on keeping on my friend. :)
11/12/2018 02:38 PMPosted by Snowfox
11/12/2018 02:35 PMPosted by Drkenypowers
Blizzard GM's as a group are grade-A, out-of-control, full-Orwell PC thoughtcops.

They should just ban any and all political expression, rather than supressing expression of viewpoints that the left finds offensive - which is to say any criticism of the left or expression of viewpoints to the right of Chomsky

lol I love how the "I'm a rebel freedom fighter" hype is amping up in this thread.

Blizzard is basically jack-booted thugs coming to stop on lady liberty's face!!!


They're using everything they have to silence expression of political expression they don't like, meanwhile trans/commie/socialist/other radical left crap goes off untouched. Its a form and manifestation of NPC programming.

Its fine if you hold these views, and you have a technical right to deplatform people from private platforms, but I don't have to pay you for it.
11/12/2018 03:14 PMPosted by Drkenypowers
They're using everything they have to silence expression of political expression they don't like.

I'm pretty sure they suppress political discussions in general when they find them.
11/12/2018 03:14 PMPosted by Drkenypowers
11/12/2018 02:38 PMPosted by Snowfox
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lol I love how the "I'm a rebel freedom fighter" hype is amping up in this thread.

Blizzard is basically jack-booted thugs coming to stop on lady liberty's face!!!


They're using everything they have to silence expression of political expression they don't like, meanwhile trans/commie/socialist/other radical left crap goes off untouched. Its a form and manifestation of NPC programming.

Its fine if you hold these views, and you have a technical right to deplatform people from private platforms, but I don't have to pay you for it.

I don't really see it as a left vs right issue.

I see it as a troll vs non-troll issue.
They're using everything they have to silence expression of political expression they don't like.

I'm pretty sure they suppress political discussions in general when they find them.


No they aren't

Conservatives almost never report political chat, even if trolled. Basis: conservatives mostly think whining to authority to silence dissenting viewpoints is for crybabies and is generally shameful.

Leftists - and I'm not saying "liberals" anymore because nothing about them is actually liberal - call anything they don't like "hate speech" or "racist" or "sexist" or "homophobic" - getting authority figures to silence debate in their favor is evidence of victory, a mark of honor.
11/12/2018 03:19 PMPosted by Snowfox

I don't really see it as a left vs right issue.

I see it as a troll vs non-troll issue.


And it just so happens that all trolls are also conservative, right?

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