Faction imbalance

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Blizzard really has to do something about the faction imbalance in game. 95% of raiding guilds are horde. Horde side has a active high key M+ Community. And has way MORE PLAYERS on that side.

Please fix the damn racials. Im one of those people who have been alliance for last 15 years and will never switch but it is having a game breaking impact now.

Revert the changes to Every man for him self. and Buff other alliance racials.

Spoilers below

Also write the lore better. Why cant alliance ever have a clear victory? You let horde destroy our tree but Tyranda can't even destroy nathanos? Who writes this?

At this time, 192 guilds have killed M G'huun
152 Horde
40 Alliance

225 Horde guilds are 7/8
94 Alliance guilds are 7/8
More Horde guilds are 8/8 than Alliance guilds are AND 7+/8

So ~70/30 for Horde/Alliance Raiding
PVP is roughly 60/40 for Horde/Alliance in 2s, 3s, and 10s
M+ is extremely lopsided towards the Horde

If this keeps up, there will be no reason to play alliance. All of the people that want to raid/pvp/push M+ will gravitate towards the Horde. If Blizzard isn't going to standardize racials, then they need to allow for cross faction raiding/M+ keys.
It's all about momentum. Making changes now won't reap any benefits in the short enough term for things to start feeling better until much later, but eventually the problem would simply switch sides.

I'm pretty sure the 100 unique clears of mythic Uldir to unlock cross realm grouping for that difficulty is Blizzards attempt to influence faction balance without overshooting.
Maybe Alliance should just stop being bad.
10/27/2018 07:40 PMPosted by Humanìty
Why cant alliance ever have a clear victory?


8.1???
10/27/2018 07:49 PMPosted by Lenastus
10/27/2018 07:40 PMPosted by Humanìty
Why cant alliance ever have a clear victory?


8.1???


I think she means against The Horde.

8.1 is a victory over the Zandalari, which will make them join the Horde. So really, we're helping the Horde by giving you another race. Same with Vulpera.
10/27/2018 07:49 PMPosted by Lenastus
10/27/2018 07:40 PMPosted by Humanìty
Why cant alliance ever have a clear victory?


8.1???


Spoilers below

Tyranda goes super sayian and still cant destroy nathanos.

Jaina runs away.

Mek goes into a coma

We lose some of our best tide sages

Zandalari get a beter leader and officialy join the horde

Cant call this a win
10/27/2018 07:45 PMPosted by Teneea
It's all about momentum. Making changes now won't reap any benefits in the short enough term for things to start feeling better until much later, but eventually the problem would simply switch sides.

I'm pretty sure the 100 unique clears of mythic Uldir to unlock cross realm grouping for that difficulty is Blizzards attempt to influence faction balance without overshooting.
They’re going to fall short instead.
10/27/2018 07:40 PMPosted by Humanìty
Why cant alliance ever have a clear victory?
The alliance literally run by 18 year old with no miltary knowledge. Pretty simple my dude.
At this time, 192 guilds have killed M G'huun
152 Horde
40 Alliance

225 Horde guilds are 7/8
94 Alliance guilds are 7/8
More Horde guilds are 8/8 than Alliance guilds are AND 7+/8

So ~70/30 for Horde/Alliance Raiding
PVP is roughly 60/40 for Horde/Alliance in 2s, 3s, and 10s
M+ is extremely lopsided towards the Horde

If this keeps up, there will be no reason to play alliance. All of the people that want to raid/pvp/push M+ will gravitate towards the Horde. If Blizzard isn't going to standardize racials, then they need to allow for cross faction raiding/M+ keys.
Maybe its Activision forcing Blizzard to write absolute crap?

Idk as Horde I agree with the OP 100%
If blizzard wanted actual racial balance, they would remove racial that affect stats or so things in combat.

Racials should do a couple of things:
- Flavor effects.
- Convenience cool downs
- Profession Modifiers
- Leveling downtime decreases

Even that last one could be debated.

But things like Shadowmeld, Dark Iron Mole Machine, Conjure Mail Box and the profession racials are completely inoffensive. If they changed in the in combat ones to something along these lines radials would actually be balanced.
Maybe Alliance should just stop being written badly.

Ftfy
10/27/2018 07:40 PMPosted by Humanìty
Blizzard really had to do something about the faction imbalance in game. 95% of raiding guilds are horde. Horde side has a active high key M+ Community. And has way MORE PLAYERS on that side.

Please fix the damn racials. Im one of those people who have been alliance for last 15 years and will never switch but it is having a game breaking impact now.

Revert the changes to Every man for him self. and Buff other alliance racials.

Spoilers below

Also write the lore better. Why cant alliance ever have a clear victory? You let horde destroy our tree but Tyranda can't even destroy nathanos? Who writes this?


What racials are broken, and where are you getting your statistics? As far as I can tell everything you said was wrong. :)
10/27/2018 08:08 PMPosted by Menacet
At this time, 192 guilds have killed M G'huun
152 Horde
40 Alliance

225 Horde guilds are 7/8
94 Alliance guilds are 7/8
More Horde guilds are 8/8 than Alliance guilds are AND 7+/8

So ~70/30 for Horde/Alliance Raiding
PVP is roughly 60/40 for Horde/Alliance in 2s, 3s, and 10s
M+ is extremely lopsided towards the Horde

If this keeps up, there will be no reason to play alliance. All of the people that want to raid/pvp/push M+ will gravitate towards the Horde. If Blizzard isn't going to standardize racials, then they need to allow for cross faction raiding/M+ keys.


couldnt have said it better my self. altho i want racials to be perfomance based but they have to be equal. right now its not even close by any margin.
10/27/2018 08:20 PMPosted by Kittredge
10/27/2018 07:40 PMPosted by Humanìty
Blizzard really had to do something about the faction imbalance in game. 95% of raiding guilds are horde. Horde side has a active high key M+ Community. And has way MORE PLAYERS on that side.

Please fix the damn racials. Im one of those people who have been alliance for last 15 years and will never switch but it is having a game breaking impact now.

Revert the changes to Every man for him self. and Buff other alliance racials.

Spoilers below

Also write the lore better. Why cant alliance ever have a clear victory? You let horde destroy our tree but Tyranda can't even destroy nathanos? Who writes this?


What racials are broken, and where are you getting your statistics? As far as I can tell everything you said was wrong. :)


your're trolling. statistics to backup everything i have said it easily available AND already known to anyone who cares about high end content
Cry me a river.
10/27/2018 07:40 PMPosted by Humanìty
Blizzard really has to do something about the faction imbalance


The populations are so close to 50% that there is no difference

10/27/2018 07:40 PMPosted by Humanìty
95% of raiding guilds are horde. Horde side has a active high key M+ Community. And has way MORE PLAYERS on that side.


Blizzard cannot program the desire for success into the game. Success breeds success and people who want to be successful will gravitate to the Horde faction because it has more players with the will to be successful in what they like to do and will put in the time to do it

10/27/2018 07:40 PMPosted by Humanìty
Please fix the damn racials


The racials are not out of balance in any shape, if people want to succeed in Mythic end game raiding they will keep trying till they succeed.

10/27/2018 07:40 PMPosted by Humanìty
Also write the lore better.


"lore" Doesnt matter to endgame raiding.

The solution to the 'problems' you listed is not complicated and it be explained quite simply for those in the Alliance faction who continue to look for excuses and scapegoats:

Log on, do stuff, keep doing stuff, convince other in your faction to do like wise.
Be a leader, take responsibility for your own actions (or lack thereof)

The real problem going on here:

Its question of pure self-confidence, pure time investment. The more some people on the Alliance faction complain about nothing and simply show that they lack any scrap of self-confidence the more people who DO want that success for themselves and put themselves in an environment where confident people make and carry out plans

It's just that simple and there is nothing in the world that Blizzard can do to program self-confidence and self-responsibility into the game.
10/27/2018 07:52 PMPosted by Humanìty
10/27/2018 07:49 PMPosted by Lenastus
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8.1???


Spoilers below

Tyranda goes super sayian and still cant destroy nathanos.

Jaina runs away.

Mek goes into a coma

We lose some of our best tide sages

Zandalari get a beter leader and officialy join the horde

Cant call this a win


Going print/tape the answer from a other thread:
10/27/2018 08:33 PMPosted by Lenastus
Tyranda goes super sayian and still cant destroy nathanos.


But badly hurt him even if he was backing up by 2 valkyr and kill one of the 2.

Jaina runs away.


After stopping along with success the horde attack in order to protect her people..

Mek goes into a coma


Still not dead..

We lose some of our best tide sages


Wooooow watch out you loose some of your best tide sages!!! We lost king rastakan, the scepter, a lot of soldier and HAFT of the zandalarie fleet.

Zandalari get a beter leader and officialy join the horde


She was already their helping her father. We did not gain her we already get her.

Cant call this a win


Than you are either delusional or just moron. Its clearly a big win!!!
10/27/2018 08:20 PMPosted by Kittredge
Blizzard really had to do something about the faction imbalance in game. 95% of raiding guilds are horde. Horde side has a active high key M+ Community. And has way MORE PLAYERS on that side.

Please fix the damn racials. Im one of those people who have been alliance for last 15 years and will never switch but it is having a game breaking impact now.

Revert the changes to Every man for him self. and Buff other alliance racials.

Spoilers below

Also write the lore better. Why cant alliance ever have a clear victory? You let horde destroy our tree but Tyranda can't even destroy nathanos? Who writes this?


What racials are broken, and where are you getting your statistics? As far as I can tell everything you said was wrong. :)


It is wrong.

There are a vocal minority of Alliance faction players who for lack of a better term just pull numbers and reasons out of their brown holes.
10/27/2018 07:51 PMPosted by Gillrien
10/27/2018 07:49 PMPosted by Lenastus
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8.1???


I think she means against The Horde.

8.1 is a victory over the Zandalari, which will make them join the Horde. So really, we're helping the Horde by giving you another race. Same with Vulpera.


Big new the zanlalari are the horde allied which mean that you do attack the horde. Not because its dont fit you " we never have a clear win against the horde" that its not one.

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