Alliance Purge Squads in Vol'dun. Why?

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Sigh... I really don't like these stories. These inconsistent, out of character stories are the worse.

I almost wish we went back to the old way of expansions... Where the story was mediocre at best, and our investments in it was what our imaginations got us.

Now they're forcing this upon most of us and might they be confused? We don't like it. It's not emotional investment, its immersion shattering! (And I hate using the word immersion, but that is what we have.)
You have borderline religious fanatics from the ranks of the light-forged it was inevitable that the fanaticism by being so close to the light would worm its way into Alliance military structure.

The Mag'har saw the lengths of what that kind of blind devotion would lead to now its only a question as to whether the priestly/pally Anduin can reign it in before it takes a much firmer grip.
10/17/2018 10:03 PMPosted by Matterom
So they coudn't write a better way for the vulpera to join the horde, so they make the alliance attack them with litteral "Purge Squads" for no good reason..... Fantastic.... Even worse they're using Draenei... DRAENEI WOULD BE THE MOST AGAINST IT... THEY'RE BASICALLY LAWFUL GOOD! Who wrote this.?


King Anduin: Velen! Why are we ordering Purge Squads against the Vulpera? What exactly have they done to us again?

Velen: Our spies overhead them cursing the Light, and your father...

King Anduin: Those filthy furries. Continue the purging.
The problem is how Blizzard designed the zones on both Kul Tiras and Zandalar.

When the Horde attacks Kul Tiras you can justify their attack on every zone. Drustvar? They mine iron and other materials and according to Taelia also have the best soldiers. Stormsong? The breadbasket of Kul Tiras. Tiragarde Sound? The heart of Kul Tiras. Every zone is actually under the control of the Kul Tirans and not some third party (outside of the usual threats but you get what I mean).

But, how do you want to justify attacks on Nazmir and Vol'dun? There is literally nothing of value in these areas. These zones are not even really controlled by the Zandalari or the Horde. As an Alliance player I cannot even name an important location of the Horde in these zones...Bwonsamdis necropolis perhaps?

Not to mention that the Alliance is now also suffering from multiple personality disorder similar to the Horde. In one quest you fight with Saurfang against a Dark Ranger and the Forsaken, in another you help the Banshee Queen to raise undead night elves. Meanwhile the Alliance pulls out of Zuldazar so the Zandalari can grief their fallen king, while a "Purge Squad" is killing innocent bystanders.

Another problem I have is that there is absolutely no reason to attack in the first place. Brennadam at least had a military goal: Starving out the enemy. It was cruel, merciless but at least it had an actual understandable goal. What's the purpose of killing vulpera though? Vol'dun is a desert and basically has zero military value.

But, anyway Blizzard has now decided that incursions have to happen in every zone. So the Alliance HAS to attack something in these areas. Blizzards chain of throught was basically, "The Vulpera worked with the Horde, so attacking them and eradicating them like vermin similar to kobolds makes sense, right?"
Seriously? This is the most unbelievably out of character thing for the Alliance to do. A better thing would be to have them targeting the Forsaken, would make MUCH more sense both lore-wise and character-wise for LITERALLY THE ENTIRE ALLIANCE LEADERSHIP.
As a real life veteran, this civilian killing stuff is really getting on my nerves.
Ayy yo, if “Purge Squads” ultimately lead to Vulpera (H) and Sethrak (A), I’ll personally burn every mother f*****g fox in Vol‘dun.
10/20/2018 08:00 AMPosted by Rimeheart
A better thing would be to have them targeting the Forsaken, would make MUCH more sense both lore-wise and character-wise for LITERALLY THE ENTIRE ALLIANCE LEADERSHIP.


I can't understand why they didn't do this already. It's basically a retcon from classic where Alliance hunted all undead as abominations. Now Anduin seems sympathetic to them and the reason they didn't join the Alliance after the Third War was failed diplomacy.

There is even an inscription with the words of Sylvanas Windrunner in Stormwind. When you kill Nathanos in classic Bolvar says that Nathanos would thank you for it. Alliance viewed undead as perversions of the original person. Purging all undead to put them down actually makes sense. It would've been an actual morally grey story.

In modern lore, all this was thrown out. Apparantly Forsaken really are the people they were in life, just with a "crazed" phase after being immediately raised. Except in this patch it gets contradicted again?

Lore lol.
The Alliance General doesn't like Furries. Can you really blame him?
I don't mind doing sketchy stuff, but for once can the Alliance actually participate in it, preferably when it makes sense?

Every time the Horde get a new member, Blizz makes the Alliance act completely inconsistently with what we, the players, see.

Everyone telling us "welcome to the villain bat" fail to notice that the Horde got to hold the bat. We're just watching, which makes it worse.
Despite whatever neutral lens the Vulpera would've seen the Alliance through if they had approached them from a more diplomatic stand point the fact is that the Vulpera have been known to help the Zandalari exiles and solders.

During first encounters of the Zanadalri exiles night elf ranger Shandris immediately proceeded to slaughter them with assistance from the Alliance hero automatically concluding the Alliance stance towards anonymous exiled Zandalari and any potential allied threats.

Additionally further intelligence gathering would indicate that the Horde's renown heros have been spotted working with Vulpera throughout Voldun.

There is more then enough justification for the wholesale destruction of the Vulpera throughout Voldun for their native existence would endanger Alliance operations including but not limited to the escort of army/munitions to the Zuldazar region.

The Alliance have already lost the world tree and suffered numerous losses in naval assets prior to the Horde landing at Zuldazar.

Any sound tactician would agree that there can be no further mistakes made on the Alliances behalf otherwise said mistakes could result in further heavy losses as inflicted by the ruthless banshee queen.

No matter the cost.
Mama's getting a new fur coat
10/19/2018 06:41 PMPosted by Ironbulwalk
You have borderline religious fanatics from the ranks of the light-forged it was inevitable that the fanaticism by being so close to the light would worm its way into Alliance military structure.

The Mag'har saw the lengths of what that kind of blind devotion would lead to now its only a question as to whether the priestly/pally Anduin can reign it in before it takes a much firmer grip.


That's neat, but these are normal Draenei working with Warlocks to "purge" innocent beings... Y'know, what literally happened to them and they were alive to remember happening, and just prevented the same Legion from doing to Azeroth right before this expansion. There's no way they would engage in an act like this.

Draenei have witnessed their own race being used as paving stones for the road to the Dark Portal at the direction of a Warlock. Having them turn around and do the same to little fox people is completely out of character.
This is extremely and aggravatingly disappointing. Blizzard's creative development team really needs to re-examine the story being told in-game because they are continuing down a terrible path of railroading certain characters and entire racial factions just....to do it? I can't even see motivation behind this.

The first time was Yrel's AU draenei being made into religious fanatics. Now this. Really starting to re-think how much more time I want to put in to this game.
10/20/2018 01:54 PMPosted by Kalydaen
As a real life veteran, this civilian killing stuff is really getting on my nerves.

My veteran friends have already quit. They are disgusted with the game right now.
10/21/2018 05:46 AMPosted by Rhulos
That's neat, but these are normal Draenei working with Warlocks to "purge" innocent beings... Y'know, what literally happened to them and they were alive to remember happening, and just prevented the same Legion from doing to Azeroth right before this expansion. There's no way they would engage in an act like this.

Draenei have witnessed their own race being used as paving stones for the road to the Dark Portal at the direction of a Warlock. Having them turn around and do the same to little fox people is completely out of character.
Not if their utter devotion to the belief of the "elite" Draenei was the price for a promised ascension into their ranks.

What Draenei would not kill for the chance of washing all their sins away in the uncorruptable, unfailing light?
10/19/2018 06:41 PMPosted by Ironbulwalk
You have borderline religious fanatics from the ranks of the light-forged it was inevitable that the fanaticism by being so close to the light would worm its way into Alliance military structure.

The Mag'har saw the lengths of what that kind of blind devotion would lead to now its only a question as to whether the priestly/pally Anduin can reign it in before it takes a much firmer grip.


So people are just accepting that awful change in the baseline story of the game? The Light, after what... 15 years? Is suddenly evil and the Naaru are not beneficent after all? And no reason was ever given to tie the AU story to the older one. It's just Lux Vult and try not to remember the lore.

Cool. Looking forward to the next retcon, and the one after that. I wonder if Blizzard will issue printable page fixes for their Chronicles, to paste in over the top of the old, inaccurate text. Continuity is for chumps anyway,
10/21/2018 06:19 PMPosted by Ironbulwalk
10/21/2018 05:46 AMPosted by Rhulos
That's neat, but these are normal Draenei working with Warlocks to "purge" innocent beings... Y'know, what literally happened to them and they were alive to remember happening, and just prevented the same Legion from doing to Azeroth right before this expansion. There's no way they would engage in an act like this.

Draenei have witnessed their own race being used as paving stones for the road to the Dark Portal at the direction of a Warlock. Having them turn around and do the same to little fox people is completely out of character.
Not if their utter devotion to the belief of the "elite" Draenei was the price for a promised ascension into their ranks.

What Draenei would not kill for the chance of washing all their sins away in the uncorruptable, unfailing light?

Because the AU Draenei and the Mainline Draenei are exactly the same. Literally no differences.
10/21/2018 06:28 PMPosted by Jandarus
So people are just accepting that awful change in the baseline story of the game? The Light, after what... 15 years? Is suddenly evil and the Naaru are not beneficent after all? And no reason was ever given to tie the AU story to the older one. It's just Lux Vult and try not to remember the lore.

Cool. Looking forward to the next retcon, and the one after that. I wonder if Blizzard will issue printable page fixes for their Chronicles, to paste in over the top of the old, inaccurate text. Continuity is for chumps anyway,
Either we resist change or we let it sweep over us. The choice is ultimately out of our hands.
10/21/2018 06:28 PMPosted by Jandarus
10/19/2018 06:41 PMPosted by Ironbulwalk
You have borderline religious fanatics from the ranks of the light-forged it was inevitable that the fanaticism by being so close to the light would worm its way into Alliance military structure.

The Mag'har saw the lengths of what that kind of blind devotion would lead to now its only a question as to whether the priestly/pally Anduin can reign it in before it takes a much firmer grip.


So people are just accepting that awful change in the baseline story of the game? The Light, after what... 15 years? Is suddenly evil and the Naaru are not beneficent after all? And no reason was ever given to tie the AU story to the older one. It's just Lux Vult and try not to remember the lore.

Cool. Looking forward to the next retcon, and the one after that. I wonder if Blizzard will issue printable page fixes for their Chronicles, to paste in over the top of the old, inaccurate text. Continuity is for chumps anyway,


It's just the one guy with super-cringe RP responses. The rest of us are calling it for the garbage it is.

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