Can elementals use the light?

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The topic is pretty much it. Could Elementals, if they devoted themselves to it, use the light just as anyone else could?
Well, the obvious thing to bring up would be Sol and the other Light elementals in the Conclave's ranks. More or less, I believe that elementals are uniform beings dedicated to one school (fire, earth, air, water, arcane, fel, etc.). Were they to use the Light, they'd likely need to be the aforementioned Light elementals.
I honestly have no idea, though it does bring to mind that Hearthstone AU where Ragnaros became a Paladin. Which I'd take with a mine's worth of salt, because Hearthstone lore.

But there are Light elementals (the opposite of Voidwalkers, I imagine) in the Priest Order Hall.
I mean I'm not so much looking at Sol or the other Lightspawns so much as I am wondering. Could a water elemental for example use light magic? Like could one, for all intents and purposes be a priest of the light?
11/13/2018 07:21 PMPosted by Totemfiend
I mean I'm not so much looking at Sol or the other Lightspawns so much as I am wondering. Could a water elemental for example use light magic? Like could one, for all intents and purposes be a priest of the light?

Technically, any sentient creature could do this.
11/13/2018 07:21 PMPosted by Totemfiend
Could a water elemental for example use light magic? Like could one, for all intents and purposes be a priest of the light?

I'm going to very tentatively say yes. For a couple reasons.

Draenei Shaman are said to see serving and balancing the elements as another way of worshipping the Light. What exactly that means is never elaborated on, but these Draenei Shaman do draw some kind of equivalency between the elements and the Light, somehow.

Chronicles 1 states that after the explosion of Light and Void that created the universe, sparks of Light fell throughout the cosmos, becoming different forms of life, the most common kind being elementals. So all elementals are born from a spark of Light.
11/13/2018 07:23 PMPosted by Zarles
11/13/2018 07:21 PMPosted by Totemfiend
I mean I'm not so much looking at Sol or the other Lightspawns so much as I am wondering. Could a water elemental for example use light magic? Like could one, for all intents and purposes be a priest of the light?

Technically, any sentient creature could do this.
Elementals are bound to the nature of their given element. They may be sentient, but they lack a capacity for free will.

This may not be the case for older, stronger elementals who have had time to learn from mortals and free-willed beings, but it's certainly the situation for average ones.
11/13/2018 07:51 PMPosted by Cantaloupe
11/13/2018 07:23 PMPosted by Zarles
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Technically, any sentient creature could do this.
Elementals are bound to the nature of their given element. They may be sentient, but they lack a capacity for free will.

This may not be the case for older, stronger elementals who have had time to learn from mortals and free-willed beings, but it's certainly the situation for average ones.


If this is the case, what exactly does it mean to be bound to the nature of their element? Fire, water, and earth are all capable of some form of healing as well as destruction, wouldn't this mean the elementals have just as much free will as any other sentient creature? sure they still have instincts just as we do, but they aren't monolithic or entirely instinctual like an animal.

Although I don't think it's possible to say elementals don't have free will? Otherwise the entire concept of shamanism is bunk as without free will elements can't make decisions and could therefore never decide to help shaman? Plus the whole idea of goblin shamanism is based around the idea of making 'deals' with elementals? You can't do that without free will either right?
11/13/2018 08:31 PMPosted by Totemfiend
Otherwise the entire concept of shamanism is bunk as without free will elements can't make decisions and could therefore never decide to help shaman? Plus the whole idea of goblin shamanism is based around the idea of making 'deals' with elementals? You can't do that without free will either right?


Elements and Elementals are different things.

Elements are the spirits, the things Shamans talk to and are bestowed gifts upon. Elementals, however, are manifestation of ideas and powers. Ragnaros is an Elemental, he is not an Element spirit unto himself.

Elementals are more akin to constructs and Elements are spirits.
11/13/2018 08:37 PMPosted by Ximothy
11/13/2018 08:31 PMPosted by Totemfiend
Otherwise the entire concept of shamanism is bunk as without free will elements can't make decisions and could therefore never decide to help shaman? Plus the whole idea of goblin shamanism is based around the idea of making 'deals' with elementals? You can't do that without free will either right?


Elements and Elementals are different things.

Elements are the spirits, the things Shamans talk to and are bestowed gifts upon. Elementals, however, are manifestation of ideas and powers. Ragnaros is an Elemental, he is not an Element spirit unto himself.

Elementals are more akin to constructs and Elements are spirits.


Doesn't this mean that the elements which are spirits are not a single entity but are instead multiple different personalities?
11/13/2018 07:51 PMPosted by Cantaloupe
11/13/2018 07:23 PMPosted by Zarles
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Technically, any sentient creature could do this.
Elementals are bound to the nature of their given element. They may be sentient, but they lack a capacity for free will.

This may not be the case for older, stronger elementals who have had time to learn from mortals and free-willed beings, but it's certainly the situation for average ones.


The more accurate view is that while intelligent elementals have free will, said will is constrained by a tunnel vision which makes them see and operate with powers and world view framed by their element.
11/13/2018 07:19 PMPosted by Grandblade
Sol


Sol was a boss. Too bad he didn't make it past Legion. We could all use a little Sol in our lives.
11/13/2018 08:51 PMPosted by Drahliana
The more accurate view is that while intelligent elementals have free will, said will is constrained by a tunnel vision which makes them see and operate with powers and world view framed by their element.

Basicly, Ragnaros had 100% free will when he wanted to burn the world tree, but he didn't see it as evil, he saw it as a massive pile of tinder he needed to burn.

It's a morality of the more of an element they have, the better everything will be. Fire Elementals burn stuff because fire burns, water elementals drown stuff because water drowns things, they choose when to do it, but fail to see that it is morally wrong.

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