Arcane mage dps raids

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So I’m playing my arcane mage and I’m at lvl 325 doing great dps in dungeons but it takes time to ramp up. How is arcane mages in raids? Never tried them in raids afraid the ramp up time will kill my dps rank in the raids. Plus it’s a lot of casting where you can’t move compared to dungeons so Ik my dps won’t be the highest because of that.
Arcane does fine in raids. Sometimes the other specs do better, sometimes arcane does better.

I've used arcane for every fight in heroic Uldir and for 3 mythic Uldir fights with no issues.
I’ve done all the fights as Arcane and honestly the only one I would say Arcane isn’t too hot on is Mythic Vectis. Frost with GS/SI/EB is just way too good. And probably Zul. Frost AoE with constantly resetting FO is too much damage

Even Mythic Zek. Time it right with lust/Second pot and blow your load after catching the orb and you’ll see the numbers fly
Not playing my mage much, but logs sure don't show Arcane as doing well in raids.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/19

Mythic logs show them as only beating ret pallys. Doesn't mean Arcane isn't unplayable, but could probably use some buffs? I know I struggle a bit to keep up on AoE in M+.
Raid boss fights last a lot longer than dungeon boss fights. Having a ramp up time isn't an issue there. Although, I'm not sure I would say that arcane has a ramp up time, more like it doesn't have a toolkit that allows for insta-burst damage.

With the Charged up talent, there really isn't a ramp up time for arcane.
Cast Charged Up, boom you're at 4 charges. Maximum single target damage level reached. And with good self control, you will be at that level or very close to it for as long as you need to be.

Other specs have more tools to do a lot of upfront damage (frost: comet storm, frozen orb, spam ice lances, etc...) but then they hit like wet noodles until either stuff comes off CD or they get the right procs to do something big. But Arcane is just grinding hard the entire time with hard hitting blast after hard hitting blast.... And when the boss dies 4 minutes later, an arcane mage may have done just as much or even more total damage.

Frost and Fire can sure look sexy and flashy. Arcane can get the job done just as well.
So, if Arcane is competitive, what makes the logs post Arcane as just about the worst raid dps in the game? Just curious what the logs are missing, because other specs down at the bottom are begging for buffs, but I rarely see Arcane mages doing the same. I'll never raid mythic, so not going to cry, but definitely see Arcane falling a bit behind in M+, mostly on the AoE side.
I gave up on it. My damage was fine but omg how mindless and boring it was to raid in arcane.

No rework in sight. Not even on the radar. Shocking that the devs have nothing to say about mages in BfA. It's Legion all over again.

Oh wait! Frost nerfs ... my bad.
11/14/2018 07:56 PMPosted by Majyka
So, if Arcane is competitive, what makes the logs post Arcane as just about the worst raid dps in the game? Just curious what the logs are missing, because other specs down at the bottom are begging for buffs, but I rarely see Arcane mages doing the same. I'll never raid mythic, so not going to cry, but definitely see Arcane falling a bit behind in M+, mostly on the AoE side.
Overall logs never tell the whole story. Arcane is among the best single target dps in the game, and that is always valuable in raids. For example on vectis, fetid, zul, mythrax, ETC. there is a clear priority target that you need to kill quickly. Arcane has insane burst with no ramp up and is one of the best at taking out these priority targets, even if they don't cleave on other targets at the same time.

Arcane also has pretty great aoe, you just don't have much occasion to spec into it for raids because of the loss of single target damage that comes with it.

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