So, Shaw is Mal'Ganis?

General Discussion
Mal'Ganis getting released in HotS at around the same time the Alliance is apparently doing some very shady or downright evil stuff in 8.1 under the direction of Shaw, with shaw being the reason the Alliance armed and tried to recruit the Blood Trolls in Nazmir, another super shady act.

If Shaw was Mal'Ganis this whole time, would you all be really into the whole 'morally grey' part of the Alliance the writers seem to want to do?
him being a dreadlord twice would be the dumbest thing ever.
No, he's just an idiot. He's always been an idiot. That's how he was so easily replaced by a dreadlord that other time.
Pretty sure the Uncrowned dealt with this.
Shaw being Mal'Ganis wouldn't really make the Alliance morally grey, just infiltrated. It would be better if Shaw, having seen what Mal'Ganis is capable of, goes on a rampage and seeks nothing but the utter destruction of the dreadlord(s), regardless of who gets in his way.

He achieves this by dealing with powers he should not in order to reach his goal.

Yeah, pretty weak, but that's how you get - or start to get - morally grey, in my opinion.
10/18/2018 12:48 AMPosted by Rorrand
No, he's just an idiot. He's always been an idiot. That's how he was so easily replaced by a dreadlord that other time.


I've never liked him - felt he was too flat, was written to be much cooler than he ever was. I believe the word I'm looking for is cringey.
Wait so a Dreadlord imitated shaw, the real shaw was rescued but it was actually Mal'Ganis this whole time? That would be some inception level stuff right there.
10/18/2018 12:45 AMPosted by Guldalina
Mal'Ganis getting released in HotS at around the same time the Alliance is apparently doing some very shady or downright evil stuff in 8.1 under the direction of Shaw, with shaw being the reason the Alliance armed and tried to recruit the Blood Trolls in Nazmir, another super shady act.

If Shaw was Mal'Ganis this whole time, would you all be really into the whole 'morally grey' part of the Alliance the writers seem to want to do?


Or you know. Maybe the Alliance is making bad decisions on their own and has no one else to blame it on. Maybe you get to deal with not being the lily-white good guys for once.
10/18/2018 12:48 AMPosted by Greenegg
him being a dreadlord twice would be the dumbest thing ever.


Sure, but why would Shaw be alive if a dreadlord was trying to take his spot? Pretty sure a body snatcher would kill the original person and burn the corpse so the original could never point out the fake.

If both Shaw were different dreadlords to lead more creedance to the destruction of the Alliance from within, it'd be way more believable.
10/18/2018 12:50 AMPosted by Guldalina
Sure, but why would Shaw be alive if a dreadlord was trying to take his spot?
because a corpse can't give you information.
Well, Detheroc did wear the Mattie Shaw skinsuit back in Legion, so the possibility of Mal'ganis taking his turn at "Azeroth's Next Top Model - Dreadlord Edition" isn't entirely out of the question.
10/18/2018 12:52 AMPosted by Greenegg
10/18/2018 12:50 AMPosted by Guldalina
Sure, but why would Shaw be alive if a dreadlord was trying to take his spot?
because a corpse can't give you information.


He's the Sha[w] of Ignorance. Did I mention I don't like his character already?
10/18/2018 12:50 AMPosted by Guldalina
Pretty sure a body snatcher would kill the original person and burn the corpse so the original could never point out the fake.


'Cause they'd need the living individual around to read their mind for infiltration info and personal life details to continue the charade convincingly.
10/18/2018 12:53 AMPosted by Camasotz
10/18/2018 12:50 AMPosted by Guldalina
Pretty sure a body snatcher would kill the original person and burn the corpse so the original could never point out the fake.


'Cause they'd need the living individual around to read their mind for infiltration info and personal life details to continue the charade convincingly.


Could just put him in a soulstone and accomplish the same thing. Legion was really fond of using souls and all that. Demon Hunters did it all the time in Legion, dunno why the legion wouldn't have done the same.
10/18/2018 12:45 AMPosted by Guldalina
Mal'Ganis getting released in HotS at around the same time the Alliance is apparently doing some very shady or downright evil stuff in 8.1 under the direction of Shaw, with shaw being the reason the Alliance armed and tried to recruit the Blood Trolls in Nazmir, another super shady act.

If Shaw was Mal'Ganis this whole time, would you all be really into the whole 'morally grey' part of the Alliance the writers seem to want to do?

Shaw isn't Mal'ganis, but Mal'ganis is out there, and it was probably him that told Vol'jin to make Sylvanas the Warchief, because that type of duplicity is what Dreadlords are good at.
10/18/2018 12:50 AMPosted by Lilywhite
10/18/2018 12:48 AMPosted by Rorrand
No, he's just an idiot. He's always been an idiot. That's how he was so easily replaced by a dreadlord that other time.


I've never liked him - felt he was too flat, was written to be much cooler than he ever was. I believe the word I'm looking for is cringey.


Agree. He behaves as aloof as a James Bond type figure, but we've never seen him do anything that deserves such a status. As a matter of fact, it's quite hard for us to sympathize considering our last major interaction with him was saving him from the clutches of a dreadlord.

10/18/2018 12:52 AMPosted by Greenegg
10/18/2018 12:50 AMPosted by Guldalina
Sure, but why would Shaw be alive if a dreadlord was trying to take his spot?
because a corpse can't give you information.


Yes it can. Dreadlords were the original necromancers.
10/18/2018 12:55 AMPosted by Guldalina
Demon Hunters did it all the time in Legion, dunno why the legion wouldn't have done the same.


Oh, that's easy. The Illidari are a lot more competent than the Legion. The Legion's primary tactic was to throw mountains of expendable troops at a thing and have them be revived constantly until they won or failed. The Illidari were capable of varied, pragmatic tactics thanks to the angsty Stormrage brother.
10/18/2018 12:52 AMPosted by Greenegg
10/18/2018 12:50 AMPosted by Guldalina
Sure, but why would Shaw be alive if a dreadlord was trying to take his spot?
because a corpse can't give you information.


Clearly you've never heard of Matlock. Or really any detective :D
10/18/2018 12:50 AMPosted by Guldalina
Sure, but why would Shaw be alive if a dreadlord was trying to take his spot? Pretty sure a body snatcher would kill the original person and burn the corpse so the original could never point out the fake.


Unless they needed him to be a live to maintain the disguise, or still thought he had information they could use.
If shaw is still a dreadlord. We really need to fire all the demon hunter. Their reason for joining us was they could detect demons disguised. During legion shaw was a dreadlord. Demon hunters didn’t know. The uncrown have to exposed him then. If he’s dreadlord again. DH will be like “Why are you here?”

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