Mages.. No longer needed in game.

Mage
Change my mind...

Raid leaders, M+ high key runners and PVP experts, with the incoming changes why would you choose to bring a mage over literally any other class / spec?
Okay, aside from damage - Mages bring Arcane Intellect, Tables, a ranged interrupt, roots, and a hard CC, and for Frost both ST and AoE snares with full uptime.

This is beyond an overreaction.
That's a bit excessive, we definitely aren't 'no longer needed in the game'.

The heavy-handed nerfs come down more to making us feel worse than making us totally un-viable. I'd argue that both have merit in the conversation, just don't confuse one for the other.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/19#dataset=90

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/20#dataset=90

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=1459/arcane-intellect

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/game/pvp/leaderboards/3v3

19% representation

Mages are also amongst the best flag spinners in rbgs.
frost mages still OP
10/31/2018 07:48 PMPosted by Ojoverde
frost mages still OP


Show us on the doll where the bad freezy mage touched you.
The top M+ Warlock re-rolled Mage.

Why do you feel so entitled as to be "needed", the only other class that should get the beatstick is rogue now.
10/31/2018 07:48 PMPosted by Ojoverde
frost mages still OP


Why am I seeing so many warlocks in these mage forums. How do you struggle versus a mage as a warlock? Gtfo lol
10/31/2018 09:45 PMPosted by Daygo
10/31/2018 07:48 PMPosted by Ojoverde
frost mages still OP


Why am I seeing so many warlocks in these mage forums. How do you struggle versus a mage as a warlock? Gtfo lol
They're just so jelly of our biscuits and buffs.
mmmmmmm tasty tasty mage tears... a bit salty, but still delicious!
10/31/2018 07:48 PMPosted by Ojoverde
frost mages still OP


Shut up you dumb weeb.
10/31/2018 05:58 PMPosted by Dokkan
Change my mind...

Raid leaders, M+ high key runners and PVP experts, with the incoming changes why would you choose to bring a mage over literally any other class / spec?


The problem with your thinking is that you need a mage for m+, the question should be why allow frost mages to be needed with all the utility they have when other classes have much less than that?
This definitely needed to happen, frost is supposed to be the st/cleave spec not bursty aoe, that’s fires job.
11/01/2018 03:51 AMPosted by Blighty
10/31/2018 07:48 PMPosted by Ojoverde
frost mages still OP


Shut up you dumb weeb.


Your tears taste so salty
In raiding specifically, the changes make zero sense.

FM is last in heroic raiding and midpack in mythic.

The snares don't matter, but ST damage nerf? Ridiculous

Yeh 80k trash pack burst is funny, but utterly irrelevant, in the actual bosses, even on zekvoz, FM is midpack.

I just can't understand WHY the changes were needed at all. They were great in Mplus for certain situations - that's it.

So now, raiding, open world (you bet it affects that) and pvp all get smashed unnecessarily because of it.
11/01/2018 06:05 AMPosted by Gríz
This definitely needed to happen, frost is supposed to be the st/cleave spec not bursty aoe, that’s fires job.


err they are nerfing ST damage and all snares.......
11/01/2018 06:48 AMPosted by Crisalla
In raiding specifically, the changes make zero sense.

FM is last in heroic raiding and midpack in mythic.

The snares don't matter, but ST damage nerf? Ridiculous

Yeh 80k trash pack burst is funny, but utterly irrelevant, in the actual bosses, even on zekvoz, FM is midpack.

I just can't understand WHY the changes were needed at all. They were great in Mplus for certain situations - that's it.

So now, raiding, open world (you bet it affects that) and pvp all get smashed unnecessarily because of it.
Is it a single target nerf? Looks like aoe burst is getting nerfed, but all damage is getting buffed to compensate.

"Frost Mage Decreases damage/healing by 24% -> 22%"

Join the Conversation

Return to Forum