Why Destro Warlock is Terrible

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Because every team's win condition against you is "Line of sight during infernal and win."

This spec isn't enjoyable.

This spec isn't cool.

This spec preys upon another players idiocy (which is starting to run out since everyone now knows how infernal works)

Lower Grimoire of Supremacy stack damage.

Increase baseline damage.

Give us a chance to kill a target outside of Infernal goes.

God this spec is bothersome.
Oh and it's not really a fun concept when you have to plan out twenty seconds ahead to burst and it's like sounding a friggin' alarm for everyone else. You're probably going to have to use conflag and DR your roots on two targets during this window anyways from havoc so when you do actually have to kill something you won't be able to root it until the last 8 seconds or so of infernal which will probably be countered by a warrior having spell reflect up, or cloak of shadows, or a kick god forbid you didn't wall just to get burst off, or a paralysis, or the long line of dumb things that can leave you bolt-less after rain of firing and breaking all the CC just to build shards.

Queue that scene from Downfall that everyone makes a meme out of with that guy from WWII that did a lot of bad things who if I mentioned would probably get me banned.
Why so much damage from the infernal?
i'd might actually play destro again if it wasn't a !@#$in gimmick

why the literal %^-*! do i not have BACKLASH baseline

like

????????????

conflag snare???? no

its just so bland and barf
yeah as i was leveling my lock and realized what the infernal grimoire did i was like wont people just run away or cc the hell out of the lock once the infernal drops
11/12/2018 08:49 PMPosted by Myracle
Why so much damage from the infernal?


Because devs ran away with this whole class-fantasy of Destro being pigeonholed into dealing massively high numbers through Chaos Bolt and never understood that old adage of, "You can have too much of a good thing."

Does it feel satisfying landing 65K+ chaos bolts? Hell yeah it does.

Do I often get to land 65K+ chaos bolts. Uhhh, no it's like looting a legendary off a critter.
11/12/2018 08:51 PMPosted by Crunchtime
i'd might actually play destro again if it wasn't a !@#$in gimmick

why the literal %^-*! do i not have BACKLASH baseline

like

????????????

conflag snare???? no

its just so bland and barf


Destro plays the exact same as it did in Legion. It's just that instead of leaving the numbers where they needed to be they took it all off baseline bolt and dropped it all on Supremacy. Our burst damage in PVE is asinine. I tear through mythic 10 bosses with heroism a solid 5-6k higher than other DPS on the shorter fights. It evens out afterwards but yeah.

Not fun. It's overkill.
+1

I just want incinerate to do damage again man
The thing is, why the hell would you ever play a destro lock instead of a balance druid?

Balance druid has a castable heal, 1 min wall, instant DoTs, undispellable ranged CC, stun/snare, ranged interrupt/silence, bear form, better armor, insane damage, and cannot be poly'd or snared.

Literally no reason to ever play a Warlock.
The thing is, why the hell would you ever play a destro lock instead of a balance druid?

Balance druid has a castable heal, 1 min wall, instant DoTs, undispellable ranged CC, stun/snare, ranged interrupt/silence, bear form, insane damage, and cannot be poly'd or snared.

Literally no reason to ever play a Warlock.


I play both, and I'm a much better Destro lock than boomkin, but boomkin is at least enjoyable. It's not nearly as frustrating as Destro and I can create pressure outside of incarn.
I remember Destro in cata. There was so much stuff to manage that it was pretty hard. Very rewarding. RIP
Play with a fire mage

Pretty hard to line chaos bolts on 1 side and greaters on the other side.
11/12/2018 09:20 PMPosted by Kïlljøÿ
Play with a fire mage

Pretty hard to line chaos bolts on 1 side and greaters on the other side.


Thanks but I'm not hard stuck. I do play with one.
Sooooo many things about destro and locks in general should be baseline. Demonic circle/teleport and wall are two big ones that I can't believe you have to choose between.

I really hope WW becomes a thing in 8.1, would love to play my favorite comp: Destro/WW/MW.
11/12/2018 09:17 PMPosted by Myracle
I remember Destro in cata. There was so much stuff to manage that it was pretty hard. Very rewarding. RIP


Lol? No it wasn’t rewarding at all. If you did EVERYTHING right, you would at best do the same damage as a mage who pushed deep freeze and spammed ice lances into the kill target.

Wrath was rewarding. MoP was rewarding. Cata was a joke. Destro had complex gameplay with zero payoff compared just playing a caster that pushed 2 buttons for their burst.
11/12/2018 10:24 PMPosted by Lokthen
11/12/2018 09:17 PMPosted by Myracle
I remember Destro in cata. There was so much stuff to manage that it was pretty hard. Very rewarding. RIP


Lol? No it wasn’t rewarding at all. If you did EVERYTHING right, you would at best do the same damage as a mage who pushed deep freeze and spammed ice lances into the kill target.

Wrath was rewarding. MoP was rewarding. Cata was a joke. Destro had complex gameplay with zero payoff compared just playing a caster that pushed 2 buttons for their burst.


Literally this, cata was the LEAST rewarding xpac for a destro next to this one LMFAO
Ya I leveled a Destro lock almost first thing in cata and remember how fun it was. I don’t remember facing any in arena though so you’re probably right

I remember that they had a lot of talents tied to their imp so it was hard to use other pets
Ive been playing some RLS with the boys and yes outside of dark soul infernal im really just a CC bot for the rogue on his kidneys. triple dotting and snagging some casts makes your numbers look alright but chaos bolt has no OOMF no slap outside of cds its gross
Edit: im also tired of being mowed down by 1600 turbos because im taking like 25k damage per second anytime they connect and they have braindead grounding totem now
11/12/2018 08:39 PMPosted by Heckindoggo
This spec preys upon another players idiocy


Destroy has always worked this way for the most part outside of Legion cremation rot build.
11/12/2018 09:56 PMPosted by Heckindoggo
11/12/2018 09:20 PMPosted by Kïlljøÿ
Play with a fire mage

Pretty hard to line chaos bolts on 1 side and greaters on the other side.


Thanks but I'm not hard stuck. I do play with one.


/spit

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