New Classic Demo Dev Watercooler

Classic Discussion
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/news/22548005/dev-watercooler-inside-the-world-of-warcraft-classic-blizzcon-demo

Hello World of Warcraft community! With BlizzCon 2018 getting closer every day, we wanted to give you an update on what you’ll be experiencing at BlizzCon around WoW Classic. We’ve been hard at work on bringing the original Azeroth back to life, and we’re excited that you’ll be able to get your hands on the demo we’re creating for the show—both at BlizzCon and at home with the Virtual Ticket.

WHAT TO EXPECT
From the beginning of this project, the team’s mission has been to be as faithful as possible to World of Warcraft as it existed back in 2005 and 2006, before Cataclysm altered the world as we knew it—and we wanted to make sure the demo we built for the show was a clear reflection of that. The focus of the demo is on outdoor questing, and we’ve selected two iconic zones that most original WoW players will no doubt be familiar with—Barrens for the Horde and Westfall for the Alliance—so you can step back in time and experience these zones as they were originally designed. You’ll be able to search for Mankrik’s wife, curse at Ornery Plainstriders for not having beaks, and make a group to kill Defias Pillagers in Moonbrook. You might even get to improvise a new rotation against the Harvest Golems in Farmer Saldean’s farm, since in this era, mechanical creatures may be immune to some of your abilities. We brought all of that back, and we’re as excited about it as you are.

Because it’s a demo, there’ll will be some limitations on the content: the Deadmines and Wailing Caverns dungeons won’t be available, the only PvP will be dueling, and you won’t be able to visit zones other than Westfall and the Barrens. We also typically limit the time our BlizzCon attendees can play a demo, and that will be the case for BlizzCon WoW Classic Demo players at home. In order to maximize the number of people who can try out the demo, initially you’ll be logged off after playing for a certain amount of time to give somebody else a turn. We haven’t determined exactly how long this time limit will be yet, but we’re also planning some flexibility, so if we’re able to relax the restriction and still give everyone who wants to play a great experience, then we’ll do that. If you do find your session has ended before you’ve done everything you wanted to, don’t worry—your character will be there when you get back in for your next session, and all your progress will be saved.

You’ll start the demo at level 15. While we know that starting at level 1 holds a lot of nostalgia, you’re also limited in what you can do when you’re first starting out. Given the time constraints of a BlizzCon demo, we wanted to give players some freedom to explore and experiment with core systems like talents or professions, which are unavailable at level 1. We also wanted you to be able to get a good sense of the original class played. At Level 15, warriors have Defensive Stance, priests have Psychic Scream, hunters have their pet, and so on—so at this level you really start to feel like your class has some of the key tools that make the class distinct. Additionally, all characters will be capped at Level 19. But you can create multiple characters, so you can try out as many different classes and races as you’d like!

WHAT’S “NEW”
As we mentioned in our original Dev Watercooler blog we posted in June, we’re building WoW Classic on the foundation of our modern code base. That means you’ll be able to download the demo through the Blizzard Battle.net desktop app and use Battle.net chat integration in-game to ask your friend to come check out the Barrens with you. You’ll also find there’s improved support for widescreen monitors—so instead of the world looking stretched and distorted in widescreen, it’ll look like it did on your old 4:3 monitor. Only bigger!

All of the current game’s tools that help ensure World of Warcraft is a welcoming and fair environment, such as right-click player reporting, will also be in the BlizzCon WoW Classic Demo. Cheats, bots, and other exploitive behavior will also not be allowed, and the modern engine no longer permits some behaviors that could be used to get out of bounds. Support for 32-bit clients has also been removed. One of our core values is “Play nice; play fair,” and we want to do everything we can to ensure a few bad apples don’t ruin the experience for others.

You’ll also find that post-launch accessibility options such as colorblind mode are in the demo—though as we were working on it, we realized some words and images used in the current Accessibility panel come from the modern game. So we replaced the modern icons with some classic icons, and removed the term “Heirloom” since it doesn’t appear anywhere else in WoW Classic. It’s important to us that in situations like this we blend the old and the new in such a way that it still looks and feels like the game you remember.

SEE YOU IN NOVEMBER!
We’re really excited about the BlizzCon WoW Classic Demo, and hope you are too! But we definitely don’t want to send the message that we’re done, because we’re not. There’s still lots of work left do, and the BlizzCon demo is an important step in the process of bringing the original WoW back to life as authentically as we can. This is a great chance for you to see the direction we’re heading and give us some early feedback, so be sure to leave your thoughts in the Classic section of the WoW forums.

Thanks for playing, and we’ll see you in Azeroth!


Seems like we're original models--even the imperfections. Wall-jumping appears to be gone (no Dwarven Airport or Mount Hyjal). We get the ability to use widescreen resolutions, which I don't think was ever a question. And they still have a lot of work to do.

Overall, a very good update.
Dude, did you even glance at the front page before posting yet another thread on this?
Please stop with the copy paste, already has been done.
What will they do for class trainers? There are none in westfall.
Blizzard Entertainment:
All of the current game’s tools that help ensure World of Warcraft is a welcoming and fair environment, such as right-click player reporting, will also be in the BlizzCon WoW Classic Demo.
Blizzard Entertainment:
One of our core values is “Play nice; play fair,” and we want to do everything we can to ensure a few bad apples don’t ruin the experience for others.
does this mean that barrens chat won't be barrens chat?
does this mean that they'll kotow to a few bad apples who want to ban everybody who does things that they don't like(such as WPvP), or more likely for merely having opinions that they don't share, driving away much of the playerbase as a result?

perhaps they ruined the game before the game even came out, or I'm just being paranoid; hopefully the matter
10/22/2018 10:45 AMPosted by Amris
What will they do for class trainers? There are none in westfall.
they'll probably add demo-only class trainers or temporarily move existing ones over there
Ugh, it is a good thing I did not purchase the virtual ticket. Classic wow experience is about leveling and learning your class. This demo sounds like BFA, purchase your level boost and go play with your friends? Only to be kicked off after half an hour or so? That doesn't sound like fun to me, and makes me start losing hope for classic experience.
10/22/2018 10:52 AMPosted by Tarregor
Blizzard Entertainment:
All of the current game’s tools that help ensure World of Warcraft is a welcoming and fair environment, such as right-click player reporting, will also be in the BlizzCon WoW Classic Demo.
Blizzard Entertainment:
One of our core values is “Play nice; play fair,” and we want to do everything we can to ensure a few bad apples don’t ruin the experience for others.
does this mean that barrens chat won't be barrens chat?
does this mean that they'll kotow to a few bad apples who want to ban everybody who does things that they don't like(such as WPvP), or more likely for merely having opinions that they don't share, driving away much of the playerbase as a result?

perhaps they ruined the game before the game even came out, or I'm just being paranoid; hopefully the matter
10/22/2018 10:45 AMPosted by Amris
What will they do for class trainers? There are none in westfall.
they'll probably add demo-only class trainers or temporarily move existing ones over there


It sounds to me like they were just stating that all the behavioral rules are still in place for the demo. Those same rules were in place back in Vanilla wow and that didn't stop barrens chat from being what it was
Hogger lucked out. This time.
10/22/2018 11:13 AMPosted by Wanta
Ugh, it is a good thing I did not purchase the virtual ticket. Classic wow experience is about leveling and learning your class. This demo sounds like BFA, purchase your level boost and go play with your friends? Only to be kicked off after half an hour or so? That doesn't sound like fun to me, and makes me start losing hope for classic experience.
dude, its for a demo
the actual game won't have level boosts
Sounds like good news to me, and a confirmation of what many of us already suspected would be the case.
10/22/2018 11:13 AMPosted by Wanta
Ugh, it is a good thing I did not purchase the virtual ticket. Classic wow experience is about leveling and learning your class. This demo sounds like BFA, purchase your level boost and go play with your friends? Only to be kicked off after half an hour or so? That doesn't sound like fun to me, and makes me start losing hope for classic experience.

Ya waiting in queue for an hour to login to auto attack some wolves with 20 people camping every spawn point only to get kicked off in 20 minutes sounds sounds like a great time...

You do realize this is a demo, right? I also imagine it's partly to not give people the illusion that their progress will carry over to actual classic. This is just designed to give people a small glimpse of what to expect, which you really don't get at level 1 in a 20 minute segment. I'm against pretty much any changes, but this is actually a reasonable decision for a demo (only for a demo though, dear god blizzard don't add character boosts to actual classic).
10/22/2018 11:52 AMPosted by Sosassy
Ya waiting in queue for an hour to login to auto attack some wolves with 20 people camping every spawn point only to get kicked off in 20 minutes sounds sounds like a great time...


During Classic, I sometimes waited in queue for almost two hours to do just this...
10/22/2018 10:24 AMPosted by Congelatore
There’s still lots of work left do, and the BlizzCon demo is an important step in the process of bringing the original WoW back to life as authentically as we can. This is a great chance for you to see the direction we’re heading and give us some early feedback, so be sure to leave your thoughts in the Classic section of the WoW forums.

THIS RIGHT HERE...

THIS IS GOOD.
This is them saying "hey look at it. We made very minor things (aka the right click to report blah blah but want it as authentic as possible. We want you to use this to tell us how we are doing and if changes needed".

It's them making sure they are not making bad early decisions that are hard to go back on deeper in the process.
10/22/2018 12:25 PMPosted by Congelatore
10/22/2018 11:52 AMPosted by Sosassy
Ya waiting in queue for an hour to login to auto attack some wolves with 20 people camping every spawn point only to get kicked off in 20 minutes sounds sounds like a great time...


During Classic, I sometimes waited in queue for almost two hours to do just this...

And you will get plenty of opportunity to once classic actually launches
10/22/2018 12:48 PMPosted by Sosassy
10/22/2018 12:25 PMPosted by Congelatore
...

During Classic, I sometimes waited in queue for almost two hours to do just this...

And you will get plenty of opportunity to once classic actually launches


And I absolutely cannot wait, though I don't think there will be queues to get onto realms.
10/22/2018 12:54 PMPosted by Congelatore

And I absolutely cannot wait, though I don't think there will be queues to get onto realms.

I think you're going to be surprised. Although it all depends what the server population cap is. Private servers have shown that once they get over 10k it's pretty unbearable, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's capped around 9 or 10k
10/22/2018 10:52 AMPosted by Tarregor
does this mean that barrens chat won't be barrens chat?

Honestly, I'm hoping it means Barrens chat WILL be Barrens chat, instead of modern Trade trolling posted in Barrens masquerading as Barrens chat.

Hit me with all the Chuck Norris jokes, but minimize the morons mouthing off about their politics mostly to get reactions and the full-on hate speech.
Can you make characters on the pre load demo?
I guess we aren’t getting mogs
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