Void Elves might get High Elf customizations

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11/06/2018 02:15 PMPosted by Xukon
11/05/2018 02:12 PMPosted by Sigmar
Enough to quell the High Elf crowd?


Why would blood elves care what alliance get?


Who is talking about Blood Elves? Did you get confused honey?
...Blood Elves and High Elves are two completely seperate races and factions. If Night Elves and Nightborne are different enough to be considered individual from each other, then High Elves and Blood Elves are more than qualified for the same respect.

It's racist to call a High Elf a "Blood Elf".

Um, High elves and Blood elves are actually exactly the same biologically, this isn't some subjective opinion but official lore. And with the Sunwell lit, and both High elves and Blood elves alike connected to it, it won't be long until they look identical once again. The nightborne were exposed and changed by the nightwell over 10,000 years, while the high elves have only been separated from the blood elves for about 10 years.


This is incorrect. High Elves do not draw from the Well like Blood Elves do, anymore. So you will not see them gaining the Golden eyes of the Blood Elves.

What? The made a specific character model change to Arator to give him golden eyes. That was clearly an intentional design decision.


They used existing assets

According to your logic, all Night Elf females have silver eyes and all Night Elf males have golden eyes.

That's blatantly false.
11/06/2018 03:22 PMPosted by Mythlor
They used existing assets

According to your logic, all Night Elf females have silver eyes and all Night Elf males have golden eyes.

That's blatantly false.


/eyeroll

Arator already had a model. Blizzard made a deliberate change to that model. Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you really this dense?
11/06/2018 03:25 PMPosted by Adelphie
11/06/2018 03:22 PMPosted by Mythlor
They used existing assets

According to your logic, all Night Elf females have silver eyes and all Night Elf males have golden eyes.

That's blatantly false.


/eyeroll

Arator already had a model. Blizzard made a deliberate change to that model. Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you really this dense?


Arator has golden eyes because he follows the path of his father as a Paladin of the light. Not because he draws from the Sunwell like Blood Elves do. That said, this arguement is pretty pointless anyways, because High Elves are not about the eye color at the end of the day. When people try to make it out to be that way, it just comes across as being nitpicky and not really trying to have a discussion.
11/06/2018 01:09 PMPosted by Adelphie
11/06/2018 01:05 PMPosted by Alurna
Of course, one of the greatest modern differences between High Elves and Blood Elves is their relationship to the Sunwell. Blood Elves actively tap into it's power to strengthen themselves, and this has become more pronounced with the advent of golden eyes in their society. High Elves, however, have not developed Golden Eyes, likely as a result of their continued habit of being passively sustained by the Sunwell, rather than tapping into it's power directly.


Arator has golden eyes now....

You people really don't know anything about Thalassian elf lore do you?


Arator is a Half-Elf, and as far as we know, hasn't even been in Quel'Thalas, much less anywhere near the Sunwell. So even if your faulty logic were applicable here, Arator's golden eyes are not a result of reliance on the Sunwell.

Learn your lore.
Only if they give blood elves some cool customization options like dark ranger or something.
About friggin time
11/06/2018 02:19 PMPosted by Talendrion
11/06/2018 02:15 PMPosted by Xukon
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Why would blood elves care what alliance get?


Who is talking about Blood Elves? Did you get confused honey?


Uh the guy I quoted?

The blood elf high elf whatever crowd is the most played race in the game.
11/06/2018 03:59 PMPosted by Curemaster
Arator has golden eyes because he follows the path of his father as a Paladin of the light. Not because he draws from the Sunwell like Blood Elves do. That said, this arguement is pretty pointless anyways, because High Elves are not about the eye color at the end of the day. When people try to make it out to be that way, it just comes across as being nitpicky and not really trying to have a discussion.


ffs. All Thalassian elves draw from the Sunwell.

11/06/2018 04:10 PMPosted by Alurna
Arator is a Half-Elf, and as far as we know, hasn't even been in Quel'Thalas, much less anywhere near the Sunwell.


Proximity to the Sunwell is irrelevant. The effects of the Sunwell the elves wherever they are.

So, take your own advice:
11/06/2018 04:10 PMPosted by Alurna
Learn your lore.
11/06/2018 03:25 PMPosted by Adelphie

Arator already had a model. Blizzard made a deliberate change to that model. Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you really this dense?


They used existing assets.

Arator has a placeholder model.

Changes to placeholder models are common.


ffs. All Thalassian elves draw from the Sunwell.


False.

Counterexample: Explictly rejected by the elves of Quel'danil

No mention from all other High Elves.
11/06/2018 04:30 PMPosted by Mythlor
They used existing assets.

Arator has a placeholder model.


They deliberately changed his eye color.

11/06/2018 04:30 PMPosted by Mythlor
False


Oh, you're right, void elves no longer draw from it. The rest of the Thalassian elves do.
Finally.
I only play white looking races.
There is literally no lore to suggest that Arator uses the Sunwell or needs to use it.

The fact that he was a Paladin in BC and wasn't sucking a Naaru might have something to do with his eye color.

And that he's half human.
11/06/2018 04:36 PMPosted by Drede
There is literally no lore to suggest that Arator uses the Sunwell or needs to use it.

The fact that he was a Paladin in BC and wasn't sucking a Naaru might have something to do with his eye color.

And that he's half human.


1. All Thalassian elves are affected by the Sunwell. The exception being void elves who have been cut off from it. There is no "drawing on the Sunwell." It is a passive thing that affects them.

2. Humans don't have gold eyes.

3. Blizzard made the deliberate decision to give Arator the golden eyes.
11/06/2018 04:39 PMPosted by Adelphie

1. All Thalassian elves are affected by the Sunwell. The exception being void elves who have been cut off from it. There is no "drawing on the Sunwell." It is a passive thing that affects them.


citation needed

All elves would have golden glows if they didn't actively draw from it. They all feel it, that is true, but they must draw from it.


2. Humans don't have gold eyes..


Irrelevant. Neither do thalassian elves. It is a glow, not an eye color.

11/06/2018 04:39 PMPosted by Adelphie


3. Blizzard made the deliberate decision to give Arator the golden eyes.


Unknown reason. Most likely because Paladin and holy energy. There's no real reason why he wouldn't have golden eyes beyond that. Assuming that he draws from the Sunwell is just that. An assumption based on nothing.

In the art, he doesn't have golden eyes, so it might just be a decision for clarity not based on lore. The same reason why all High Elf placeholder models have blue eyes.
citation needed


https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sunwell

Irrelevant. Neither do thalassian elves. It is a glow, not an eye color.


/eyeroll

11/06/2018 04:40 PMPosted by Mythlor
Unknown reason. Most likely because Paladin and holy energy. There's no real reason why he wouldn't have golden eyes.

In the art, he doesn't have golden eyes, so it might just be a decision for clarity not based on lore. The same reason why all High Elf placeholder models have blue eyes.


/facepalm
11/06/2018 04:39 PMPosted by Adelphie
11/06/2018 04:36 PMPosted by Drede
There is literally no lore to suggest that Arator uses the Sunwell or needs to use it.

The fact that he was a Paladin in BC and wasn't sucking a Naaru might have something to do with his eye color.

And that he's half human.


1. All Thalassian elves are affected by the Sunwell. The exception being void elves who have been cut off from it. There is no "drawing on the Sunwell." It is a passive thing that affects them.

2. Humans don't have gold eyes.

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I decided to brush up on my lore because this sounded wrong, I don't want to really say its wrong but it is not mentioned at all as a passive thing...
Adelphie, there is no lore, ANYWHERE, to suggest Half-Elves are connected to the Sunwell. If they were, they too would have gone through withdrawal, and we have -zero- indication of that having been something they had to deal with. Indeed, we have some lore to counter that.

We know the Withdrawal killed off the very young, and the very old. Babes and small children, for example. Vereesa's children would've been alive during this period in time during which the Sunwell was not a thing, and they did not die, nor is it ever suggested they went through withdrawal. Quite the opposite, Vereesa's cousin kidnapped the two as infants to drain their mana because he believed they would have high levels of mana being half-elves.

So, again, learn your lore.
11/06/2018 04:46 PMPosted by Adelphie

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sunwell


Not an official source.

Even then this is the exact quote:

"Its energies are available to be drawn upon from anywhere in the cosmos"

You still have to draw from it.


/eyeroll


Jaina's eyes glow when she casts spells. Eye glows aren't necessarily permanent infusions. So it's not a valid argument.

11/06/2018 04:46 PMPosted by Adelphie

/facepalm


Stay classy.

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