I want to watch BFA burn.

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Trust me ur not the only one. The major reception for Bfa 3 months into release has been overwhelmingly negative. Granted it's the start of an expac, but with the way things have been done, designed and executed, the illusion has been shattered. Wow is no longer about personal progression.

It has become a casino of RNG. They like to call this "earning your reward" but this id disingenuous. You never get to choose the time and place of what you earn, and you don't get to decide your reward. The RNG system and removal of master loot is only there to further extend game time. With such a philosophy backed up by it's implemented design, blizzard intends to milk the playerbase out of money by keeping them engaged in this RNG casino.
Why dont you tell us how you really feel OP.
And who sir, are you sir, to try to stop the great Developers sanctioned and revered tradition of the development workday !@#$-a-thon? You think people come up with cow people (with moose horns even), wolf people, and flying mounts that work hard to get to areas where they can't fly, on just pure air?

Knowing the last couple of expansions they had the money from all the subs that bought in with pre-purchase so they got a little out of hand. Show me someone that has never gone ♫ one toke over the line sweet Jesus, one toke over the line ♫.

We need to have compassion and let them know we care. Just ask them to step away from the pipe and write some good stuff for a few years. We can all join them for a big celebratory circle in Eric Forman's basement after we enjoy some pre-Ion like gaming.

/this has been brought to you by a not serious Demon Hunter. Just smile and say "OK dear. So who has the pipe now?"

:)
10/21/2018 09:57 PMPosted by Daxtrovian
10/21/2018 09:55 PMPosted by Gormosh
The hyperbole is strong with this one.

Aight, hit me dude. What did we get that is a net positive moving from Legion.
Anything. And don't say "w-w-well Mythics and Raids are pretty fun!" Subjective, and endgame PVE is always pretty good regardless of expansion.


Your whole argument is subjective.
10/21/2018 09:50 PMPosted by Daxtrovian
Honest to god I hate BFA. Would not mind a refund even if that means all my characters get deleted. I have absolutely lost all faith in WoWs current devs, and my only wish is that they never get moved to other projects as to avoid infecting them with terrible anti-gameplay.
How on god's green earth did they decide that it would be a good idea to add global cooldown to everything. Who asked for this? Why?
Who decided that we should prune more abilities from Legion and literally give nothing in return. How does that make sense? Honest question, what have we gained from BFA? a bunch of worthless passives. They even scrapped tier sets for them.
BFA sucks through and through. I am glad to see it tanking so hard. WoD is unequivocally better.


yeah me too. I waiting. The gas is already spreading pretty far. this is going to be one big fire.
10/21/2018 09:57 PMPosted by Daxtrovian
10/21/2018 09:55 PMPosted by Gormosh
The hyperbole is strong with this one.

Aight, hit me dude. What did we get that is a net positive moving from Legion.
Anything. And don't say "w-w-well Mythics and Raids are pretty fun!" Subjective, and endgame PVE is always pretty good regardless of expansion.


So if being subjective isn't allowed, better go back and delete what..half?..of your initial rant.
Please note all the toons posting on their mains defending BfA barely stepped out of LFR, and geared thru strictly World Bosses, Weekend event caches and Warfronts.

The titan/warforging casino RNG, class pruning, and azerite system are all designed with these players in mind. That is why you are seeing this trend. It rewards ultra-csasual play for little to no effort.
BFA is trash. The only way it could get better is if it burns to the ground.

Knowing Blizzard they'll keep dumbing down the classes, and add more RNG, though.
10/22/2018 04:34 AMPosted by Glowshot
Please note all the toons posting on their mains defending BfA barely stepped out of LFR, and geared thru strictly World Bosses, Weekend event caches and Warfronts.

The titan/warforging casino RNG, class pruning, and azerite system are all designed with these players in mind. That is why you are seeing this trend. It rewards ultra-csasual play for little to no effort.


It's brilliant, in concept at least. Back in vanilla through say Wrath if I saw someone standing in Org in raid gear I sat up and took notice. I wanted that gear. I left not long before Cata.

Now I can get the gear I always wanted through LFR, or Warfronts. You can get those sweet, sweet purps you always wanted, and it takes almost no effort. On the surface that sounds great, but when your effort isn't rewarded it kills motivation at any level of game play.

We're 7/8 H, and while my main can get theoretical upgrades they are each very minor because I already have the same gear from normal. It's just not a compelling carrot anymore.

I like raiding. I like teamwork. But I really miss caring about the loot that dropped.
10/21/2018 09:58 PMPosted by Galdriss
Fire bad.
tree pretty
I hate you negative people who spend all your forum time puking on BFA.
I like raiding. I like teamwork. But I really miss caring about the loot that dropped.


Because back then loot used to mean something. You worked towards that loot through raiding and teamwork with people you bonded over the journey. That's what made loot feel good and memorable.

Now? Oh, titanforged, but it only rewards luck in a hamster wheel LFR with ppl you wouldn't spend one minute having a conversation with. We used to be able to remember and cherish the memory of getting a Sulfuras or Zin'rokh. You're not going to remember that titanforged weapon you got in Uldir LFR in 2 years, I guarantee it.

Hell, I still cherish my MOP cloak or WOD ring b/c it reminds me of all the fun times earning it throughout the entire expansions and playing with my friends to help each other to get the items. Trust me, we won't feel the same with our Azerite neck because of how the system is designed. They lost sight of what makes an MMORPG special: earning your character progression with the relationships you build over time. They just went too far in the other direction.
10/22/2018 03:33 AMPosted by Akston
10/21/2018 09:57 PMPosted by Daxtrovian
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Aight, hit me dude. What did we get that is a net positive moving from Legion.
Anything. And don't say "w-w-well Mythics and Raids are pretty fun!" Subjective, and endgame PVE is always pretty good regardless of expansion.


So if being subjective isn't allowed, better go back and delete what..half?..of your initial rant.


Yeah haha dude, Global cooldown is subjective! Haha.
Oh also no more tier sets are subjective as well, heh.
Passive azerites simming consistently the highest is just like, your opinion, man.
What, you didnt get new spells throughout the entire expansions? Thats all in your mind boyo.

This is your brain on BFA.
I have to agree. BFA is a garbage fire. The faster it burns, the quicker it will end and they can hopefully rebuild on its ruins to make something actually worth playing.
10/22/2018 02:49 AMPosted by Warstrike
Why dont you tell us how you really feel OP.


Demote everyone who had a hand in making this anti-player clusterfeck. They are better used as nameless resources within blizzard than calling the shots. Bring back the devs who did MoP class gameplay. At the very least Legion devs. It is a sad state of affairs that I feel a tiny glimmer of hope from Holinkas return. We are talking WOD devs here, and we are feeling somewhat better about it.
The things I find fun aren’t new things that BFA brought to the table. Progressing slowly in raids and M+ aren’t new. I still love WoW, but as far as BFA, it’s a solid 5/10 - most of that comes from the lore and beautiful graphics.

Saying you want to watch it burn is a little dramatic, but hey, it got my click.
It happens to some players, where they reach a point they turn on the game and "hate it".. and then they want everyone else to as well.

It's really kind of pathetic.
10/22/2018 11:27 AMPosted by Snowfox
It happens to some players, where they reach a point they turn on the game and "hate it".. and then they want everyone else to as well.

It's really kind of pathetic.


I dont need YOU to hate the game. I need my money spent in advance returned to me. At the very least returned to my blizz wallet. You can keep playing this turd all you want.
I couldn't agree more . this game is beat . I Level a character to 120 and not a day passes , that toon becomes my alt and and I level a new character . I Have Zero interest in bfa content or the lack of it .
I'm patiently waiting for classic
I'd rather see it successful and enjoyable. I love this game and this expansion can be great, they just have a lot of work ahead of them.

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