Flying: Why must we wait until 8.2?

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11/05/2018 09:10 PMPosted by Graewyn
You got anything else? Because mocking you is going to be the easiest thing I do all night.


You can try mocking me but I am actually quite good at debating. Bring it on, my salty friend. I will gladly swat down your arguments.
11/05/2018 09:10 PMPosted by Charax
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Stop using this link.

1) This link is not related to the current content- this was done 3 expansions ago.

2) This particular poll was easily circumvented. I'm pretty sure I voted a couple of times on that one. It wasn't a valid poll back then and it definitely isn't valid now.

3) See point 1.


Why? Because it doesn’t suit your narrative that the supposed majority want flying? Where is YOUR proof of that?


Because it's a false poll and doesn't prove anything. People could vote on it as many times as they wanted proving it was false.
11/05/2018 09:11 PMPosted by Truthspeaker
what makes you think the folks who prefer flying are a minority, vocal or otherwise? It seems the mass unsubbing when it was announced that there'd be no flying in WoD indicates the opposite.


Oh, I must have missed the report that stated X number of players unsubbed because of flying. Are you going to invent facts now for your argument?
11/05/2018 09:12 PMPosted by Charax
You can try mocking me but I am actually quite good at debating. Bring it on, my salty friend. I will gladly swat down your arguments.


You've got nothing; there's nothing to debate. You linked an old, now irrelevant poll on a site, that as I said, is very much in favor of everything Blizzard does. You are in the minority and the proof lies with all the threads that are inundated with "Likes" for the removal of Pathfinder or having flying at max level for a reasonable sum of gold.
11/05/2018 09:16 PMPosted by Graewyn
You are in the minority and the proof lies with all the threads that are inundated with "Likes" for the removal of Pathfinder or having flying at max level for a reasonable sum of gold.


Given we are not allowed to “dislike” something, perhaps you can point me to a thread that has a lot of likes. I’ll compare that to he estimated WoW player population, do some simple math, and show you that it is an insignificant group relative to the player population.

Your turn.
11/05/2018 08:51 PMPosted by Qri
Flying: Why must we wait until 8.2?

Such blatant disregard for customer satisfaction and experience would never 'fly' in the real workplace world. And the hubris demonstrated by developers who seem to not care in the least what their community thinks astounds me.

You ask a question, then act like you know the answer. You say it is "disregard" and "hubris". I say that is silly nonsense you thought up so you could attack Blizzard.

The devs DID NOT MAKE THIS RULE. It was made by corporate executives. The devs do NOT run this billion-dollar company.

I disagree. The devs did indeed make this rule.

Their bosses came to them and asked them to come up with a plan to increase gametime, and this is what they came up with.

In the real world of business, that's how it works. Neither investors nor people at the top micromanage planning to the extent that they would be ordering implementation of level scaling, ilvl scaling, removal of flight, or any other highly unpopular changes to the game that Ion is totally responsible for.
It's actually astounding that this dumb piece of !@#$ thinks people who are anti-flying are the majority. How absurdly delusional can one person be?
11/05/2018 09:20 PMPosted by Charax
11/05/2018 09:16 PMPosted by Graewyn
You are in the minority and the proof lies with all the threads that are inundated with "Likes" for the removal of Pathfinder or having flying at max level for a reasonable sum of gold.


Given we are not allowed to “dislike” something, perhaps you can point me to a thread that has a lot of likes. I’ll compare that to he estimated WoW player population, do some simple math, and show you that it is an insignificant group relative to the player population.

Your turn.


Make a thread praising Blizzard for withholding flying. Explain your reasoning. Tell everyone how much you love being prohibited from flying. Tell everyone how much you love THEM being prohibited from flying.

Let's see how that goes. You're a good debater, of course.
Some like flying, some do not.
If you do not.. then don't.
It should be offered at 110, 120, etc for those that do.
Being forced to see things..well not my bag. I will see it as I want to not when they want me too.
I would like my flying!
I want flying but I dont think it really needs it now. Sure it would save me time to do stuff but they already control the pacing of the game and its decent. The way flying is now isnt even flying its setting the gravity to zero. And thats really an op feature. They scale the world around you and past the game just like every other game and made the world smaller to get content out faster and more efficiently. Alot of flying zones had a ton of dead space if you go back to those zones. I quite like the design right now. Flying really isnt necessary but it is the ultimate quality of life upgrade cause of zero gravity. But you still have tools to reduce gravity and even glide like the goblin gliders. Those make the world fun right now. But those tools will be useless with flying mostly.
Lol. I am happy there will be no flying for a good long while. WPvP will take a hit when it comes out.
They use it as a way to recoup lost subs. In 7.2 they ran ads all over the place marketing flying. Just another greedy company removing and withholding quality of life changes for money.
11/05/2018 09:20 PMPosted by Charax
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Given we are not allowed to “dislike” something, perhaps you can point me to a thread that has a lot of likes. I’ll compare that to he estimated WoW player population, do some simple math, and show you that it is an insignificant group relative to the player population.

Your turn.


So, you’re not going to point me to a thread that shows massive support for flying as indicated by the LIKE metric?

Huh, why am I not surprised?

So much for your “easy mocking” of me. ;)

Make a thread praising Blizzard for withholding flying. Explain your reasoning. Tell everyone how much you love being prohibited from flying. Tell everyone how much you love THEM being prohibited from flying.

Let's see how that goes. You're a good debater, of course.
If you haven't figured it out yet the current devs are just treating flying as completely passive aggressive dbags. They refuse to let pathfinder be able to finish at launch but still claim that flying will be in the game.

The current devs wanted to kill flying altogether because they were too lazy to actually design the world around it like in BC and WotLK and when that proved unpopular to the tune of losing millions of subs they took the current approach.
11/05/2018 06:32 PMPosted by Orienn
How many threads are we going to see a day about this topic? The horse is deader.


The dead horse might still need a beating in other realities. We have to mana-bomb it!
11/05/2018 09:20 PMPosted by Charax
Given we are not allowed to “dislike” something, perhaps you can point me to a thread that has a lot of likes. I’ll compare that to he estimated WoW player population, do some simple math, and show you that it is an insignificant group relative to the player population.

Your turn.


If we did, you can rest assured that each of your posts would have reached oblivion by now. You're free to do that except it wouldn't prove anything either way as the entirety of World of Warcraft's population does not post here. There's no way to reasonably know what the actual majority wants so the next thing is to determine it by what these forums want. In this case, they want Pathfinder removed and the old method of obtaining flying returned.
Proposal:

War Mode players will be permanently grounded but they now get an exorbitant farming & reward bonus so that they are more efficient than flyers.

Would you accept that so you can fly early? Hmmm? Or do you just want to lord over the efficiency bonus while cheekily telling us we can stay on our ground mounts?

Put your gold where your mouth is and let’s see how hypocritical some might be.
11/05/2018 06:25 PMPosted by Voidarcane
I get to explore the world it seems larger


Um how have you not "explored the world" yet? Also your false perception doesn't change the world size.
I'd like to see flying happen earlier, but frankly what would it add to the game that makes it better? To me the issue isn't flying it's that the game isn't fun at the moment. I'd be much happier to see new content and changes that make things interesting than see flying happen.
11/05/2018 09:24 PMPosted by Gnomest
Lol. I am happy there will be no flying for a good long while. WPvP will take a hit when it comes out.


Because world PvP is just booming right now.

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