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Continuation of http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2743690992

Credit for the original thread goes to Kangoo-Windrunner, here is the 1# post:

I see a lot of people defending the 371 honor set as "well documented" and happening "every patch for 7 seasons" and other similar comments and felt an impetus to explain to those individuals why the 371 set does not fall within expected, documented, or historical context.

Here is what actually happened.

In 4.1 there were three PvP sets.

Bloodthirsty (Blue) - Honor Points
Vicious (Epic - 365) - Conquest Points
2200+ Vicious (Epic - 365, different color) - Free trade in for 2200+ (purely aesthetic set)

The expected, historic behavior was for the Vicious (Epic - 365) set to become an honor set, and for the new Season 10 set to become the new conquest set. This is analogous to valor gear becoming justice gear and new valor gear being introduced.

When 4.2 hit, this is exactly what happened. The current "conquest" gear became "honor" gear and the new "conquest" gear would be introduced with the new season.

Vicious (Epic - 365) - Honor Gear
Ruthless (Epic - 384) - Conquest Gear

This was exactly what everyone expected to happen. This is exactly what has been happening every new tier for quite some time. This is exactly what happened... for one week.

Now today this happened:

Vicious (Epic - 371) - Honor Gear
Ruthless (Epic - 384) - Conquest Gear

Wait... what? Blizzard created an entirely new set, which did not exist in the game in 4.1 - was not documented in any way - and replaced the old 365 set one week after the old set became available.

There was absolutely no mention of this change incoming. It would be akin to moving the valor gear to justice gear. Waiting one week for everyone to farm up the newly-justificated gear, and then removing that gear from the game and creating an entirely new set of justice gear that did not exist as conquest gear in 4.1

If you are incapable of understanding why this is different from anything which has happened in the past, why this is unacceptable, and why this would never have been done to PvE'ers then I don't know how to explain it to you.

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Nobody is justified in being upset that arena players have to honor grind again this season, we need some incentive to go into Battlegrounds each new season and this is actually an elegant way of accomplishing that.

The only justified reason anyone is upset is that Blizzard gave us a new honor tier which lasted exactly one week before, with no warning or documentation, replacing it with a new previously non-existent tier.

This is not a case of Blizzard taking old conquest gear and pushing it down to honor gear... They did that a week ago.


I wanted to put this up here because people posting are completely missing what it is that some of us are upset about. This makes it pretty clear.
07/05/2011 08:08 PMPosted by Tyrion
What are the odds they just delete this thread?

First they'll have a blue post telling us to go post in the capped discussion.
It capped because they extended the cap past the 500 post limit, and they didnt want to, or havent gotten around to raising it again.
So they cappd the posts eh . well i typed out a whole thing push enter and it vanished haha . Anyway i farmed the gear for an alt and now its worthless a whole weekend wasted .

thanks blizz unsub. waiting for D3
Back when the original thread was around page 26, I was ready to start a new thread using the word "fiasco" in the title.

A fitting description for this.
So, let me get this straight . .

I screw up (exploits, etc) - I get suspended or banned. Blizz screws up (bait and switch scam) and they laugh at us as we farm more honor.

I think it makes sense now. It doesn't hurt so much when you accept your fate.
So they cappd the posts eh . well i typed out a whole thing push enter and it vanished haha . Anyway i farmed the gear for an alt and now its worthless a whole weekend wasted .

thanks blizz unsub. waiting for D3


Lets just hope D3 has a different group of devs
Might want to post the 1st threads main topic at the top as well as the link to 1st topic.
Back when the original thread was around page 26, I was ready to start a new thread using the word "fiasco" in the title.

A fitting description for this.

Wai thank you. I am great with a labeler.

And sitting around waiting to see if they'll answer my ticket about getting my gems back. My subscription is contingent on some for of non apology compensation.
I think this being the first thread with a the cap limit extended since it was re-established says mountains.

They know this is going to go on for awhile.....



This, like the RealID, isn't going to go away until the community gets an answer. And this time we're going to want a REAL answer on why this was done, they've been pretty bad about that over almost the last year.

I expect to see an explanation coming on this. The devs understand that we're tired of things being done for seemingly "we think it's the right thing to do." GCs blog on the balancing changes for 4.2 is an example of that, they really do understand we want to know what the actual through process is behind major changes.

And adding an entire tier of PVP gear a week after the previous one hit is a MAJOR change that went totally undocumented.
Word on the street its the original Diablo devs but dont take my word
Can't believe people would actually unsub over this.


Eh. In the past I've been angry or annoyed by various changes or lack thereof. I really feel like this is the first time in many years of playing this game that I've been deliberately misled and had my time wasted.
07/05/2011 08:15 PMPosted by Warpando
Word on the street its the original Diablo devs but dont take my word


Regardless you're still giving money to blizz :P

I wish they would post with an explanation or some way to reimburse us, or if we will be. I got full gear on 3 toons this last week and then wanted to smash my face into my desk.

You can't go past 4000 Honor, so you're forced to spend it.
You can't buy Weapons till 7250 honor is gained, forcing you to spend honor.

It's a a scam, maybe not an intentional one, but a scam regardless.
Eh ive been giving money to blizz since the days of Wc3 but im not going to pay monthly for it so i dont feel as bad .
07/05/2011 08:16 PMPosted by Dialtone
Regardless you're still giving money to blizz :P

I was thinking of going SC2 myself, unless anyone has a better idea.

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