Firelands Raid Hotfixes Sept. 20

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The 4.2 Hotfixes blog post has been updated with a complete list of the changes:
<a href="http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3019413/">http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3019413/</a>


Nice changes...thank you for the full update.
Gradual change, huh?

Yea that didn't happen. Wonder why they decided to nerf everything into oblivion on one single hotfix rather than gradually?

very lame.
09/20/2011 10:37 AMPosted by Moelock
15% not that bad.


15% is huge... it completely eliminates the challenge of pretty much every boss. No more burn phases. Scrubs putting up 10k dps can probably clear the place now.
Thanks for these changes. Don't listen to the negativity here, a lot of people I have talked to in-game are happy with the nerfs. Anyway, 4.3 will be different with the LFR easy difficulty coming into picture.
Gradual change, huh?

Yea that didn't happen. Wonder why they decided to nerf everything into oblivion on one single hotfix rather than gradually?

very lame.


They stated they wanted people working on Heroic Modes before 4.3. Nerfing stuff into oblivion like this will probably have a better chance of achieving this then gradually nerfing stuff.
09/20/2011 11:28 AMPosted by Brudarek
15% not that bad.


15% is huge... it completely eliminates the challenge of pretty much every boss. No more burn phases. Scrubs putting up 10k dps can probably clear the place now.


No, you'll still need a DPS average above 14k on Beth.

But Rhy and Shan are going to be total jokes now.


I havn't done the other 4, but I'm curious how stinking easy it's going to be.
09/20/2011 11:32 AMPosted by Gavan


15% is huge... it completely eliminates the challenge of pretty much every boss. No more burn phases. Scrubs putting up 10k dps can probably clear the place now.


No, you'll still need a DPS average above 14k on Beth.

But Rhy and Shan are going to be total jokes now.


I havn't done the other 4, but I'm curious how stinking easy it's going to be.


My group was hitting Bale's enrage at 2% last week.
09/20/2011 11:28 AMPosted by Brudarek
15% is huge... it completely eliminates the challenge of pretty much every boss. No more burn phases. Scrubs putting up 10k dps can probably clear the place now.


So you are saying that you will be able to clear firelands now?

You haven't even passed 7th grade math to figure out dps requirements, I bet the nerfs are intended for you.

If you'd passed 7th grade math you'd know that you need atleast 13k dps to kill most bosses in there.
Really not happy about this, and my raid group is just 3/7 normal mode. We'll down both Alys and Bale this week for sure now, but the satisfaction will be gone. But hey, loot.
Gradual change, huh?

Yea that didn't happen. Wonder why they decided to nerf everything into oblivion on one single hotfix rather than gradually?

very lame.


They stated they wanted people working on Heroic Modes before 4.3. Nerfing stuff into oblivion like this will probably have a better chance of achieving this then gradually nerfing stuff.


Working on Heroic Modes =\= facerolling through Heroic Modes, only stopping to hand out the loot.
Thanks for the update and THANK YOU for the nerfs. I wouldn't have minded keeping on grinding and learning but hey you just decreased the learning time :P so no complaints here. I for one (as I am sure many others do) have a life and have very little time to raid so I'm not going to complain about a game.

Keep up the great work!
We got Rhyoloth in 5%. We worked in him ALL the last week. I felt very disappointed by not killing him before the nerf.

Mixed thoughts. In one hand, they lower the barrier, but in the other hand, I am not Paragon neither can I spend 500 atempts in one boss. It was getting pretty boring .

We will see what happens....

If even newcomers like me can kill HRagnaros in the next two - thre weks, I can assure the nerf was too much.
09/20/2011 11:32 AMPosted by Gavan


15% is huge... it completely eliminates the challenge of pretty much every boss. No more burn phases. Scrubs putting up 10k dps can probably clear the place now.


No, you'll still need a DPS average above 14k on Beth.

But Rhy and Shan are going to be total jokes now.


I havn't done the other 4, but I'm curious how stinking easy it's going to be.


14k average is ridiculously low. Normal mode raids in ICC were doing that last expansion.


No, you'll still need a DPS average above 14k on Beth.

But Rhy and Shan are going to be total jokes now.


I havn't done the other 4, but I'm curious how stinking easy it's going to be.


14k average is ridiculously low. Normal mode raids in ICC were doing that last expansion.



14k is really really good...if you're a tank. I think I can cap out around 15.5k DPS while tanking a boss that has me sitting at 100% Vengeance.
Sorry guys, I have to leave the raid group. I zoned in before you and accidentally hit fan of knives. All the bosses died.
09/20/2011 12:06 PMPosted by Elleii
• Wrath of Ragnaros in Stage 1 now knocks targets up


Lookout female toons


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Don't kid yourself. They could nerf H Rag by another 50 percent and people would still get thrashed by him.

This nerf will make very good guilds that has been struggling get the kill. It will still be extremely hard for all other guilds.

This fight has four phases. Not three.


Not just that. Think about NORMAL Ragnaros for a minute.

Guilds who have severe trouble with him now because of strategy issues won't be able to down him post nerf either. The adds will still get to the hammer, even with a 15% nerf to HP. The meteors will still 1 shot people. The exploding floor will still basically 1-shot people. Lava waves will still kill people, even with a damage nerf.

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