What's the "Empire under the ice"

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During the lore story bit for the lorewalkers for the Wandering Isle story, the Lorewalker refers to various locations:

"... with tales of mysterious cities in sand, nomadic people living on endless grassy plains, a great empire under the ice, and a magical kingdom gilded in gold..."

Which is the Trolls, the Tauren, *blank*, and the Blood Elves.

What is the "great empire under the ice"?

Is it Northrend? The vrykul? /confused
Nerubians.
09/29/2012 12:00 PMPosted by Velarin
Nerubians.
Azjol-Nerub, yeah.
So Pandaren were in Azjol Nerub? O.o Well alright, thanks guys.
09/29/2012 12:55 PMPosted by Baalsamael
So Pandaren were in Azjol Nerub? O.o Well alright, thanks guys.


Either that, or they heard of it through other means. Azjol Nerub is the only Empire under (this word is significant) ever mentioned, so, there can be no other possible answer.

Well, you could mention Zul'Drak, but it wasn't referred as an Empire, while Azjol Nerub was. Also, under the ice.
09/29/2012 11:58 AMPosted by Baalsamael
"... with tales of mysterious cities in sand,


09/29/2012 11:58 AMPosted by Baalsamael
Which is the Trolls,


What? The Sandfury have one city in the sand. It's more likely a reference to Ahn'Qiraj, or Uldum.
Visions are showed along side the story when Lorewalker Cho is telling it that shows the different people. So sand people = Trolls, plains walkers = Tauren, empire under the ice is Nerubians and the city gilded in gold is the High elves.
Also, Zul Drak did refer to itself as an empire

As did the Gurubashi and Amani for that matter
What? The Sandfury have one city in the sand.


Yes, all those ruins in Tanaris were never separate cities.

Ever.

Even thousands of years ago when the Pandaren would've seen them.
09/30/2012 02:34 PMPosted by Skytotem
What? The Sandfury have one city in the sand.


Yes, all those ruins in Tanaris were never separate cities.

Ever.

Even thousands of years ago when the Pandaren would've seen them.
Hey, it could have been like Zul'Drak where the whole zone was just one city!
10/01/2012 06:34 AMPosted by Dusksworn


Yes, all those ruins in Tanaris were never separate cities.

Ever.

Even thousands of years ago when the Pandaren would've seen them.
Hey, it could have been like Zul'Drak where the whole zone was just one city!


If so, why isn't Tanaris literally covered in troll ruins?

No, it's more likely that each of those troll digsites in Tanaris was a distinct troll village, given how far apart they are.
Because ice and snow tend to preserve structures, while sand erodes, destroys, and buries them.
10/01/2012 02:33 PMPosted by Vegdrasil
Because ice and snow tend to preserve structures, while sand erodes, destroys, and buries them.


The pyramids, obelisks, and other artifacts in Egypt say otherwise.

Sand might bury them, but it certainly doesn't erode or destroy them even after thousands of years.
All those things are huge, massive structures... And very, very, very badly damaged by two thousand years of exposure. None of the architecture in Zul'Farrak is even approaching that scale, and we're talking likely more on the order of ten thousand years of exposure.
Yall do know that the Ancient Neurbian empire spanned literally the entirety of Azeroth? Those bugs have been around since before the Titans came to Azeroth.
Yall do know that the Ancient Neurbian empire spanned literally the entirety of Azeroth? Those bugs have been around since before the Titans came to Azeroth.


No... Nerubians were in Northern azeroth, Qiraji were in western azeroth, Klaxxi were in southern azeroth. The Az'aqir Empire.
10/02/2012 03:54 PMPosted by Baalsamael
Yall do know that the Ancient Neurbian empire spanned literally the entirety of Azeroth? Those bugs have been around since before the Titans came to Azeroth.


No... Nerubians were in Northern azeroth, Qiraji were in western azeroth, Klaxxi were in southern azeroth. The Az'aqir Empire.


The race all those races that you listed originated from originally had an world spanning underground empire, the most well support theory is that when the Titans came to Azeroth and broke up the Empire that the split up factions evolved into what we know as The Nerubians, Qiraji, and the Klaxxi.

The Nerubians on their own are really really, REALLY old! Remember in Warcraft 3 when Arthas battled an Old God while traversing the Ancient Kingdom? Yeah, they are that old.
10/02/2012 03:59 PMPosted by Vadâr
The race all those races that you listed originated from originally had an world spanning underground empire, the most well support theory is that when the Titans came to Azeroth and broke up the Empire that the split up factions evolved into what we know as The Nerubians, Qiraji, and the Klaxxi.


No, that's fact. Not a theory. They are the Azj'Aqir, who broke up into the Qiraji, Nerubian, and Klaxxi.

The Nerubians on their own are really really, REALLY old! Remember in Warcraft 3 when Arthas battled an Old God while traversing the Ancient Kingdom? Yeah, they are that old.


That's not that long ago dude. x.x
10/02/2012 04:01 PMPosted by Baalsamael
The race all those races that you listed originated from originally had an world spanning underground empire, the most well support theory is that when the Titans came to Azeroth and broke up the Empire that the split up factions evolved into what we know as The Nerubians, Qiraji, and the Klaxxi.


No, that's fact. Not a theory. They are the Azj'Aqir, who broke up into the Qiraji, Nerubian, and Klaxxi.

The Nerubians on their own are really really, REALLY old! Remember in Warcraft 3 when Arthas battled an Old God while traversing the Ancient Kingdom? Yeah, they are that old.


That's not that long ago dude. x.x


I meant that the Neurbians are old enough to actually HOUSE and OLD GOD in their Kingdom. Were talking more than tens of thousands of years old. I simply said that proof that Old God existed was when Arthas fought it.

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