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12/06/2012 09:12 AMPosted by Angelista
justification for paladins being crap.


Paladins aren't crap sunshine, you might be but Paladins aren't.

You'll deny anything to get your "Woe is me Paladins are so terrible." message across so you can play the martyr and fill these forums with nonsense along with the rest of your little buddies.

Hands are powerful, raid saving powerful, so is the rest of our utility. Our DPS, both AoE and Single Target is competitive.

You can compare our utility or damage to other classes all day, doesn't matter, Paladins are far from crap and Retribution is an asset to any raid.

The fact that you can't think of any examples where our utility is useful just shows your own lack of understanding of the class and spec you play.
Paladins aren't crap sunshine, you might be but Paladins aren't.


You have NO relevance at ALL in any department or facet of the class or spec. Stop talking to me. And for this I thank you.
12/06/2012 09:19 AMPosted by Angelista
The tank should be keeping aggro. LOL!


LOL tanks cant keep agro on a target with a focus mechanic

LOL @ you telling me that sometimes a tank doesn't have something to use to get mob aggro. That's a lie. I tank. I know. I can ALWAYS get aggro if I need to. No if and or buts.


Sometimes they dont, you have taunt and shield toss, sometimes there are more than 2 or 3 mobs

Hands in PVE are so useless. They are like the human appendix. It comes with the human body but you don't need it at all and would be just fine if it were to be removed


I truly feel sorry for you if you actually believe this.
The tank should be keeping aggro. LOL!


LOL tanks cant keep agro on a target with a focus mechanic

LOL @ you telling me that sometimes a tank doesn't have something to use to get mob aggro. That's a lie. I tank. I know. I can ALWAYS get aggro if I need to. No if and or buts.


Sometimes they dont, you have taunt and shield toss, sometimes there are more than 2 or 3 mobs

Hands in PVE are so useless. They are like the human appendix. It comes with the human body but you don't need it at all and would be just fine if it were to be removed


I truly feel sorry for you if you actually believe this.


Play with better tanks. That's all I have to say in regards to this garbage. AND MEANWHILE, raid groups will be requesting other classes and specs over the ret paladin.
Play with better tanks. That's all I have to say in regards to this garbage.


I play with tanks that actually raid, not 5 man/lfr heroes.
12/06/2012 09:38 AMPosted by Paladinchaz
Play with better tanks. That's all I have to say in regards to this garbage.


I play with tanks that actually raid, not 5 man/lfr heroes.


I do raid, sweety. And I tank said raids. LoL!

Like I said, RAID WITH BETTER TANKS THAT CAN HOLD AGGRO. And you can keep your little hands, I have my own and I never have to use them so why would I need yours, Ret paladin? I'll take the warrior to my raid over you. Thanks.

Moving on. I'm over this discussion about useless hands and a useless spec in PVE raiding.
That requires someone need Hand of Protection? NO.


I can think of one specific encounter I have employed the use of hand of protection: Spirit Kings, a nice way of salvaging a sure death when a player is pinned right on the short path of flanking orders. Again probably the only time I've ever used a hand spell in MSV or HoF outside of sacrifice.
12/06/2012 09:38 AMPosted by Angelista


I play with tanks that actually raid, not 5 man/lfr heroes.


I do raid, sweety. And I tank said raids. LoL!

Like I said, RAID WITH BETTER TANKS THAT CAN HOLD AGGRO. And you can keep your little hands, I have my own and I never have to use them so why would I need yours, Ret paladin? I'll take the warrior to my raid over you. Thanks.


LFR isnt raiding 'sweety'
12/06/2012 09:40 AMPosted by Svindler
That requires someone need Hand of Protection? NO.


I can think of one specific encounter I have employed the use of hand of protection: Spirit Kings, a nice way of salvaging a sure death when a player is pinned right on the short path of flanking orders. Again probably the only time I've ever used a hand spell in MSV or HoF outside of sacrifice.


I suppose.
Paladins aren't crap sunshine, you might be but Paladins aren't.


You have NO relevance at ALL in any department or facet of the class or spec. Stop talking to me. And for this I thank you.


And exactly what pray tell gives credence to your claim of me having no relevance "sweetie"?


I do raid, sweety. And I tank said raids. LoL!

Like I said, RAID WITH BETTER TANKS THAT CAN HOLD AGGRO. And you can keep your little hands, I have my own and I never have to use them so why would I need yours, Ret paladin? I'll take the warrior to my raid over you. Thanks.


LFR isnt raiding 'sweety'


Yes it is. You can try to downplay it all you want. It's raiding. Hands are not needed just like your ret paladin is not needed in any aspect of PVE or even PVP.

Good day.
Yes it is. You can try to downplay it all you want. It's raiding. Hands are not needed just like your ret paladin is not needed in any aspect of PVE or even PVP.

Good day.


Rofl

You're kidding? LFR is "Hand" holding at its finest, you dont need to use your "Hands" because Blizzard is already holding your "Hand" to get through it.


You have NO relevance at ALL in any department or facet of the class or spec. Stop talking to me. And for this I thank you.


And exactly what pray tell gives credence to your claim of me having no relevance "sweetie"?


Your armory.
12/06/2012 09:43 AMPosted by Angelista
Hands are not needed


Nothing is needed in LFR.

You can put some one on follow in LFR and afk.
Yes it is. You can try to downplay it all you want. It's raiding. Hands are not needed just like your ret paladin is not needed in any aspect of PVE or even PVP.

Good day.


Rofl

You're kidding? LFR is "Hand" holding at its finest, you dont need to use your "Hands" because Blizzard is already holding your "Hand" to get through it.


When I do them on my priest or my DK on Normal do I see ret paladins casting hands? NO I DONT!

LMAO!

Just stop, please.

First all I did was heroics

Then all I did was LFR

Now what?

Shush plz


And exactly what pray tell gives credence to your claim of me having no relevance "sweetie"?


Your armory.


Compared to what? Yours?

I certainly have more experience in PVE then you.
12/06/2012 09:45 AMPosted by Cadenbrie
Hands are not needed


Nothing is needed in LFR.

You can put some one on follow in LFR and afk.


THey are not needed in Normal mode either or do you not read? Don't sit here and act as if you are in raids needing to cast your hands because if you don't the raid will wipe and ppl will die. You and I both know hands are not needed.

Or are you one of those tanks PaladinCHaz mentioned that can't keep aggro on trash and bosses and get the raid killed?
When I do them on my priest or my DK on Normal do I see ret paladins casting hands? NO I DONT!

LMAO!

Just stop, please.

First all I did was heroics

Then all I did was LFR

Now what?

Shush plz


Perhaps the Rets you 'raid' with were listening to your advice too much and in in the equally terrible mindset.

Or perhaps your group is simply carrying you.


Your armory.


Compared to what? Yours?

I certainly have more experience in PVE then you.


Oh sweety, EXPERIENCE isn't a prerequisite for you to comment on anything because all of the PVP advice you like to give and you last did an arena was when?

Exactly. Have one of several seats, Caden.
When I do them on my priest or my DK on Normal do I see ret paladins casting hands? NO I DONT!

LMAO!

Just stop, please.

First all I did was heroics

Then all I did was LFR

Now what?

Shush plz


Perhaps the Rets you 'raid' with were listening to your advice too much and in in the equally terrible mindset.

Or perhaps your group is simply carrying you.


Yea ok.. anyway I'm talking to Caden now. Keep sitting over there thinking ret paladins or hands are a much needed raid utility. I could care less.

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