Ret isn't bad...but it is unforgiving...

Paladin
Small Burst Windows.....inability to heal in 5.1 form, CC's with long CDs, One shot Defensive CD which can be dispelled if not LoS'ed correctly.

It's not the spec that is bad, it's just you have to be very good to use it correctly. If you play faceroll all the time you will lose as you rise up the brackets. If you don't faceroll correctly then your partner will die because you can't heal them well enough. If you get tunneled you have a short window to heal and your heals are small (i.e. use bandages, better use of your bubble, warlock crack is better then our heals).

However when you time everything perfectly you can pretty much kill anything but a mistweaver or resto form druid in about 3-4 GCDS. I'm not sure but I think this is what GC has planned for all the other classes. He said we are the Baseline.

Yeah so Ret makes good players really shine but also makes Bad players look well...really really bad.
Some of the things you are talking about, are common sense and apply to a lot of classes. The rest looks like QQ.

01/30/2013 12:59 PMPosted by Phelan
It's not the spec that is bad, it's just you have to be very good to use it correctly.


Joking right? You just have to use it correctly to use it correctly. Does Ret have issues? Yes. But talking like you have to be some kind of WoW pro to play it correctly is laughable.

Paladin just might not be the class for you. It is one of the easiest classes to play in this game. Ret manages to be even easier than the other 2 specs. Not sure where you go from here.
Easy? like easy to play or easy to do well with?
Sure Pallys are easy to play, sure, Ret is easy to play... but how easy is it to do very well as a Ret? Holy is probably the most forgiving right now but if you heal in PvP say, how easy is it to survive and heal your friends while theres 4 people pounding on you at the same time?
Easy? like easy to play or easy to do well with?
Sure Pallys are easy to play, sure, Ret is easy to play... but how easy is it to do very well as a Ret? Holy is probably the most forgiving right now but if you heal in PvP say, how easy is it to survive and heal your friends while theres 4 people pounding on you at the same time?


A lot easier than it is for a shaman by far. Instant stun, bubbles, speed burst. However if your in 5s and four people are pounding on you then your DPS SUCK. Every class has helpful peeling techniques

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