SMF vs TG question

Warrior
I am looking for some logs of people that are around my 490-500 ilvl with logs of TG dps in different raid situations.

I want to compile some info to see if it would be worth the effort to switch for the guild because we already run 1 SMF warrior and come 5.2 I dont want to fight for Weps so much.

If I can get some logs of TG with comparable gear to mine it would help me out.

Have also been trying to test TG and SMF on the PTR to see if there is any difference in dps from either or because of the +50% haste buff. I honestly do not think there will be but I have been proven wrong before.

I appreciate the help
ilvl 495 TG

Feng H
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-simsjeuwhdifhl7q/sum/damageDone/?s=6841&e=7155

Elegon H (4 + 4 orb)
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-prxhz4ck7insyhn4/sum/damageDone/?s=3590&e=4004

Vizier:
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-prxhz4ck7insyhn4/sum/damageDone/?s=7675&e=7951

Empress
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-dwy44apieltm5inz/sum/damageDone/?s=7935&e=8419
thats is awesome thank you
im ilvl 493

Feng Heroic
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-8mvz6lhahduniho0/sum/damageDone/?s=3641&e=3992

Elegon H 4 Orbs each round
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-8mvz6lhahduniho0/sum/damageDone/?s=9433&e=9882

We have done HoF for awhile. Working on Heroic Will/Le Shi
This is a fantastic idea! We can see how the two stack up in current content. Here's a couple of mine. Note- when this was taken I was TG not SMF and using a 504 shinka w/ dancing steel, 480 crit and 500 str and a mal sword offhand w/ windsong. Compared to my weps now the damage isn't too much different. Ilvl was 496/7 then

Feng heroic- TG
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-ezsof284axctx64d/sum/damageDone/?s=7102&e=7458

Feng heroic- the following next week. Only other upgrade was heroic tier gloves (from bloodforged warfists, already had 4 piece). I was SMF for this fight
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-m00vb7zruyuilcge/sum/damageDone/

Elegon heroic- 4 orbs
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-ezsof284axctx64d/sum/damageDone/?s=16029&e=16480
If you really want to min max, you can use tg as your default weapons and use the gear manager as a macro to change to Smf when you use dragons roar, heroic leap and execute. Tg will have bigger hits naturally and you should use tg for aoe. And switch to Smf for execute.
It's a lot of worth while effort. But I am naturally a try hard. Lol
If you really want to min max, you can use tg as your default weapons and use the gear manager as a macro to change to Smf when you use dragons roar, heroic leap and execute. Tg will have bigger hits naturally and you should use tg for aoe. And switch to Smf for execute.
It's a lot of worth while effort. But I am naturally a try hard. Lol

When you switch from 2h to 1h there is a delay before you get any bonuses.

So if you go from TG to SMF you don't get that damage bonus until 30 (?) seconds later. Not really worth it, it seems.
Haven't seen that, nor noticed. :)
GC post:
"We are going to use the same solution we did for Frost DKs, which is that a weapon swap will prevent the passive bonus for applying for 30 sec or so. In this case, if you switched to SMF for Execute, you wouldn't benefit from the SMF bonus for a long enough time that it's probably not worth it. There are very few legitimate cases where a warrior would want to switch from TG to SMF in the middle of an encounter."

Also you can test this by keeping your character stat page open and looking at the DPS stat. When you switch from TG to SMF the number will jump up by 35% after some time.
02/02/2013 04:58 PMPosted by Awe
Haven't seen that, nor noticed. :)


There isn't any indication in tooltips. Only way to notice is equip 2 2h, then equip 2 1h and watch as the damage in your character window increases by 35% 30s later.

02/01/2013 05:00 PMPosted by Snugglz
I want to compile some info to see if it would be worth the effort to switch for the guild because we already run 1 SMF warrior and come 5.2 I dont want to fight for Weps so much.


Stay TG.
Difference in single target dps is minimal, anything whit cleave greatly favors TG and it looks way cooler than SMF.
SMF has higher Executes which make the dps higher in the long run but at the same time on fight with adds obviously going TG would benefit more.

My problem is I dont have any 2h and the dedication to go for it would cost me time to get new weps. With 5.2 coming out I wanted to kind of stick to one or the other for gear and progression sake.

And from everything that I have test on the PTR. The DPS difference with equal gear for SMF and TG is not scaled any different due to +50% more haste from gear.

So my honest opionon is that you should play whatever you feel best with. Honeslty though if you are in a progression guild like I am, there is ALOT of competetion for 2h wep and not many classes need 1h str weps. So i will have to see how I organize my raid comp and figure out from there if it would be worth it.
I have seen and played on the PTR for awhile and looked into the loot tables trying to figure out which way I want to go with TG or SMF. So my idea would be this.

5.2 is coming out in about two weeks (Feb. 26th) so for right now I am builing both a TG and SMF set. I will have runes and see what I get on top of seeing what drops off the boss. From there I think I will make me decision lol. I sounds bad but if I end up with a Thunderforged 1h wep, well then you kinda know where you are gonna be.

I have looked at countless logs of both SMF and TG dps and it all breaks down to how well that person performed what the Str of each type of fury is. There are enough AOE fights in ToT to make TG very attractive so I am leaning more toward that. Plus there are some really cool looking 2h weps in ToT
Snugglz I think its 100% haste now, not 50%. Are you saying SMF will still be ahead?

I prefer SMF, quicker swings and smoother rage gen. Plus those executes are intoxicating. Honestly, totally depends on the drops that are had. I was tg for one week after I got sha touched then switched back to smf after I got the other sha touched. What an expensive week that was!
It's 50% haste last I checked. They haven't changed it back to 100% as far as I know.
Well for me atm it is more about raid composition and progression not personal glory. There are fights in ToT that have good AOE potential so TG would benefit more than it would hurt. Plus typically you get higher crit from TG than you would SMF. With the additon of really good crit/str trinkets in ToT I think our dmg as a whole will do really well.

I have seen a lot of TG warrios do better than SMF but yes with Executes SMF is def the highest dps for single target.

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