Ret paladins?

Paladin
In that vein in a 10 Man environment, where you have less variety to work with, I find my utility essential.
In that vein in a 10 Man environment, where you have less variety to work with, I find my utility essential.


Enough to almost develop a God Complex.
Enough to almost develop a God Complex.


I hold your life in my hands raid group, all in my hands.

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Definitely not in a bad spot, but not really in a good spot for 5.2 HARDCORE progression.

If you have played on the PTR, the buff to SoL in 5.3 is more than enough to make us a viable decision, even for hardcore progression guilds.

For the average guild progressing through heroics or normals ( not bleeding-edge prog ), we are perfectly fine

I'd argue we are good based on the utility we can provide alone, and our damage isn't as mediocre as others are making it out to be. We are middle of the pack, a little better, a little worse on most fights. It is fight design in most cases why Ret does poorly, or looks like it is performing poorly.

The buff to SoL in 5.3 SHOULD push us above middle of the pack on pretty much every single fight. It's about an 8-11% dps increase iirc, so damage shouldn't even be a factor when the patch rolls out.
Retribution Paladin has to be the worst spec in the game. Every single DPS class I have encountered does more damage. Casters completely *@%@%!#! us. Forget about trying to lock down a healer. Healers are OP anyways. Warriors do much better than us. Death Knights own us. Our "utility" is a joke. I can get three heals off before I am OOM. That's it. I use to PvP quite a bit until I gave up because of my regret of rolling a Paladin. I have never seen a Paladin top DPS charts in any BG I have ever been in. I am not exaggerating. Ret Paladin has to be at the very bottom of the ladder. I can't think of any class/spec worse than PLD/RET. It has gotten to the point where I feel like I'm the gimp of the BG just there to look funny and get punched repeatedly. It is sad compared to how deadly RET was at one point in time. There is no reason to roll a RET if you are a competitive PvP player. There is no reason to roll a RET if you are a competitive raider. The only reason to roll a RET is for RPing. That's it. I'm not the best player around but I'm not a scrub either. This spec blows and I regret choosing it everyday I play WoW.
Retribution Paladin has to be the worst spec in the game. Every single DPS class I have encountered does more damage. Casters completely *@%@%!#! us. Forget about trying to lock down a healer. Healers are OP anyways. Warriors do much better than us. Death Knights own us. Our "utility" is a joke. I can get three heals off before I am OOM. That's it. I use to PvP quite a bit until I gave up because of my regret of rolling a Paladin. I have never seen a Paladin top DPS charts in any BG I have ever been in. I am not exaggerating. Ret Paladin has to be at the very bottom of the ladder. I can't think of any class/spec worse than PLD/RET. It has gotten to the point where I feel like I'm the gimp of the BG just there to look funny and get punched repeatedly. It is sad compared to how deadly RET was at one point in time. There is no reason to roll a RET if you are a competitive PvP player. There is no reason to roll a RET if you are a competitive raider. The only reason to roll a RET is for RPing. That's it. I'm not the best player around but I'm not a scrub either. This spec blows and I regret choosing it everyday I play WoW.


Dude, just get a better gear before talking.
I've seen plenty of Ret doing 10kk+ im BGs, paired with hunters and locks. And doing some nice offheals too.
IMO, ur just bad.
Speaking from a PVE perspective Ret is doing fine. I by no means consider myself elite but I lead my raid in DPS (random casual guild) on most fights and in LFR I'm usually either top damage or in the top 3. Overall I would say this has been the best X-pac for Ret so far. *I went Ret late WotLK*
4/18/2013

Is a 3-month old thread considered a necro?
4/18/2013

Is a 3-month old thread considered a necro?

In this case, since there have been changes since the thread began; yes.
Retribution Paladin has to be the worst spec in the game. Every single DPS class I have encountered does more damage. Casters completely *@%@%!#! us. Forget about trying to lock down a healer. Healers are OP anyways. Warriors do much better than us. Death Knights own us. Our "utility" is a joke. I can get three heals off before I am OOM. That's it. I use to PvP quite a bit until I gave up because of my regret of rolling a Paladin. I have never seen a Paladin top DPS charts in any BG I have ever been in. I am not exaggerating. Ret Paladin has to be at the very bottom of the ladder. I can't think of any class/spec worse than PLD/RET. It has gotten to the point where I feel like I'm the gimp of the BG just there to look funny and get punched repeatedly. It is sad compared to how deadly RET was at one point in time. There is no reason to roll a RET if you are a competitive PvP player. There is no reason to roll a RET if you are a competitive raider. The only reason to roll a RET is for RPing. That's it. I'm not the best player around but I'm not a scrub either. This spec blows and I regret choosing it everyday I play WoW.


Lel baddie.

Edit: People still use blue pvp gems? I thought everyone went to strenth for pvp.
I know PvE you are supposed to stack haste? For PvP I always come out top kills/dps. forge for haste, and gem for socket bonus'. Haste/str gems are your best friend. Also, your offheals are amazing as ret, stack up a proc on flash with a holy prism and you are golden. Try not to bubble, unless you pop and then get rid of the bubble as a trinket. I am against the use of bubble, I think it's just your targets sign that you are out of ways to stay alive. Learn to play without it, and you are unstoppable.
Retribution Paladin has to be the worst spec in the game. Every single DPS class I have encountered does more damage. Casters completely *@%@%!#! us. Forget about trying to lock down a healer. Healers are OP anyways. Warriors do much better than us. Death Knights own us. Our "utility" is a joke. I can get three heals off before I am OOM. That's it. I use to PvP quite a bit until I gave up because of my regret of rolling a Paladin. I have never seen a Paladin top DPS charts in any BG I have ever been in. I am not exaggerating. Ret Paladin has to be at the very bottom of the ladder. I can't think of any class/spec worse than PLD/RET. It has gotten to the point where I feel like I'm the gimp of the BG just there to look funny and get punched repeatedly. It is sad compared to how deadly RET was at one point in time. There is no reason to roll a RET if you are a competitive PvP player. There is no reason to roll a RET if you are a competitive raider. The only reason to roll a RET is for RPing. That's it. I'm not the best player around but I'm not a scrub either. This spec blows and I regret choosing it everyday I play WoW.


You've done 4 fights this entire expansion, and claim that Ret is the worst spec in the game? Please go away.
I would like to see a holy power ability for RETS, an off focus word of glory that does massive AOE ONLY damage after a short 5 second channel and gives a % chance to crit players who have been hit

maybe like a 8 yard radius or something
08/11/2013 05:08 AMPosted by Cryonics
5 second channel


No. Breaks our swing timer, and sounds stupid to boot.

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