"Mystery Gifts"

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So, I've noticed a couple of players spamming trade advertising "Mystery Gifts" for sale.
Basically they are selling something that is gift wrapped for 40-60 gold and suggesting you can "win" rare pets like JiKun hatchling as well as lesser rare pets or mats or whatever. It's clearly a scam as they have no way of proving they have these pets to give away.

My question is what can be done about these players? I have attempted to report one player but had to report it under cheating. Is it even against the rules? I feel it should be.
My question is what can be done about these players? I have attempted to report one player but had to report it under cheating. Is it even against the rules? I feel it should be.


They're not cheating. It's not against the rules. Smart people taking advantage of stupid people.

Want to solve the problem?

It's quite simple. Do not buy "Mystery Gifts".

Problem avoided.

If things like that were considered cheating, then Blizzard should be ousted for putting "Mysterious Fortune Cards" in the game to begin with.
I never trust "sales" such as that nor the one to be the first to "find" someone and collect gold or "pay" to enter x building because it is x players/guilds casino.

Always best to stick to the ah as it can not take your gold and give you nothing then log out promptly.
It falls under the gambling rules.

Please report any casino or gambling-based advertisements you see within public chat channels to the Game Master department. You may do so by submitting an in-game petition or by right-clicking on the name of the advertiser and selecting the "Report Spam" option. When submitting an in-game petition, please be sure to include the advertising character's name and realm, as well as a brief description of the chat you witnessed.

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/in-game-casinos
That would be gambling which is clearly against the rules, and for good reason.
08/24/2013 12:57 AMPosted by Adrastia
My question is what can be done about these players? I have attempted to report one player but had to report it under cheating. Is it even against the rules? I feel it should be.


They're not cheating. It's not against the rules. Smart people taking advantage of stupid people.

Want to solve the problem?

It's quite simple. Do not buy "Mystery Gifts".

Problem avoided.

If things like that were considered cheating, then Blizzard should be ousted for putting "Mysterious Fortune Cards" in the game to begin with.

Actually, it is against the rules. It's a RNG based game where you pay gold to get a random result of unknown value. Blizzard classifies this as a gambling scam and it is reportable. And before anyone comes back and says "but isn't this what Blizzard does through RNG in the first place?", Blizzard controls the items that are available through loot RNG. They cannot control what a player does and the player might not in fact have placed any items of value in their "Mystery Gifts", just talked about those items as part of the advertising.

The OP took the correct action, using the right click reporting and selecting the cheating option.

And of course as you said, just don't buy any Mystery Gifts in the first place. If you have to pay for it, it's not a gift.
Who would do a thing like that? >.>
That's amazing. Why didn't I think of that?
That's amazing. Why didn't I think of that?


Because you care about the rules and don't want to get squelched?
They're not cheating. It's not against the rules. Smart people taking advantage of stupid people.

Want to solve the problem?

It's quite simple. Do not buy "Mystery Gifts".

Problem avoided.

If things like that were considered cheating, then Blizzard should be ousted for putting "Mysterious Fortune Cards" in the game to begin with.


scams like this have been stopped before. report, and move on. this poster has no idea what he's talking about.
That would be gambling which is clearly against the rules, and for good reason.


I was under the impression that gambling and casinos aren't against the rules, just advertising for them is.
I don't think that is quite the same Righteous, for one major reason. Player ran casinos are just that, player ran. The player can decide to cheat and not pay up.

The RNG of the fortune cards are out of the players hands, and therefore you can't cheat others with them.
WTS mystery gift 60g...
/buy gift
/open gift
/receives a 5c vender trash item
/buys another
/opens gift
/receives 6c vender trash item
....
/goes to buy another gift
/seller says one sec im out
/seller mounts a traveler mammoth
/seller dismounts
/seller sells another gift
/receives item that venders for 4c

This is basically what would happen if a person was dumb enough to fall for it, as you can see the seller gets his stuff for cheap from a vender, packages it, etc.

As for the mysterious fortune cards, thats allowed as thats not player controlled, if the maker flips it and it ends up as 10s, then that person cant undo it to try and sell it for more. Now if they sell it unflipped the buyer has a chance to win 5k...not a good chance, but still a chance. Personally I prefered using the cards for making fortune cookies so I could get a buff....though blizz should do that next expac since this ones almost over.
I was under the impression that gambling and casinos aren't against the rules, just advertising for them is.


This is true.

Scamming however is against the rules.

If you're advertising that one or more of your presents have something valuable in them? They better have something valuable in them. Because a GM can see all of the transactions. And if all you're doing is selling vendor trash, you're going to have a bad day.
08/24/2013 12:13 AMPosted by Vonstarr
My question is what can be done about these players?

Do not partake of their service. If you catch wind of somebody considering it, just point out that there is no oversight to ensure it is ran legitimately and no recourse in the event that it is not.
It falls under the gambling rules.

Please report any casino or gambling-based advertisements you see within public chat channels to the Game Master department. You may do so by submitting an in-game petition or by right-clicking on the name of the advertiser and selecting the "Report Spam" option. When submitting an in-game petition, please be sure to include the advertising character's name and realm, as well as a brief description of the chat you witnessed.

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/in-game-casinos


^ That.

What they are doing IS against the rules. Ironically, doing the package/selling them isn't the part that is against the rules.

It's the advertising of it.

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